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New thing i just noticed, when you make a sub, the staduim announcer announces the name of the person coming on. Credit to EA for sorting out the CPU subs as well, if they are behind they will bring on strikers.

Of course it can, if pes can get a proper game engine which re creates realistic games of football, its back on again. Mind you if ea can keep adding more realism and more player indviduality, its night night for pes. But actually I think next year PES 2011 has a real good chance if it can do...

Your choice but your missing out, fifa 10 is seriously good at times, but it takes real practice though, its completley different to pes 2009 in terms of gameplay, so it would be a nasty shock for anyone crossing over. Im gonna put fifa 09 back in the xbox today and prolly play some pes 6 as...

I call it 'the church of PES' They just cannot accept PES hasnt been the same since pes6, all good things come to an end someday.

Its very much like PES in certain ways, the passing on semi assisted is alot less accurate, which is both good and annoying. I feel there is more player individuality this year, the most annoying thing so far is the scripting and cheating the computer uses to score goals, ive won my last 5 in a...

Man, i make judgements based on what i see and know as a pes player of many many years, but i will make my final judgement on pes 2010 when i have game, you lot need to calm down a little yet, just because i dont have the game, doesnt mean i cant make valid points, and let me remind you, no one...

What the fucking point in the fucking demo, all you douches would say is "You cant judge the demo, wait for the proper game" So im waiting for the proper game, which i could probably get before release if could be arsed.

The scripting in this game is so bad, im having to try professional, its the worst ive seen since pes 2008, i was beating inter in the san siro with barca, injury time, milito goes for a shot outside the box, it defects right to eto, who fires it in. The worst thing is, you know any time you...

Have you even played fifa 10?

Im watching Inter, so ill get to this point, YES, i can see the difference between ribery and messi, especially in terms of dribbling, passing, not so sure cant remember, but there is deffo more of difference, i dont play with english teams so wouldnt know about drogba, but there is a difference...

Nah, EA just fucked up by not checking it enough before release, i dont believe the core gameplay in PES 2010 is going to be better, you cant skill dribble, hold up the ball and hold off the man behind you, no jockeying, less animations, CPU automated controls....only way i would play that game...

Mate you just described one of my games lol. Yeah i play on world class too, fucking so annoying.

Lets see how long fifa lasts, its doing my head in right now because my defending is fucking shit, plus the CPU cheats, (trust me it does) but there is something about it which keeps me going back for the time being, like i said, it does have some wow moments. Technically I would be shocked if...

Mate fifa is getting fucking lambasted around on the fifa forum, cos EA are fucking morons, they didnt bother to test the game enough and as a result its bugged and has aspect which need changing.

Lol, they scored the same goal AGAIN, bannana cross, the attacker was on the edge of the area, somehow my keeper was off the line, guy does a 18 yard looping header over my keeper...............its a joke. The defensive positioning is awful in that mode, in exihibition, different story, your...

fuck this game is pissing me off now, might stop playing it, the manager mode is fucking scripted, its a joke, some of the goals im conceding are just awful, no matter what i do in custom tactics my team keeps playing this high defensive line and my midfield does nothing they just push up and...

You cant make a final judgement on a finished game from a demo, but you can make a judgement on the direction the game is going in.... thats the point of a demo. lol

fucking el, have you got ps3 or summin? Man, like i said above and have said many times, EA fucked up, fifa 10 isnt what we thought it would be. But what i will defend is the core gameplay because you can play some truly amazing football in this game.

Fuck hearing... Have you played the game? Play the fucking game. In the pes 2010 demo, during a substitution, sometimes the official holding up the subs board is actually one of the football players lmao. (eg, sergio ramos). Bugs happen all the time and ea fucked up with a few things, but...

Dude if you cant judge a game by the demo, whats the point of a demo? Obviously its not the finished game, but its representative of the finished game, thats why its the demo, unless you think the finished version is going to be completely different.