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Well yeah, no real news about animations, pes is obviously going down the fifa route with sponsors, scouts and all that. Cuntface (adam) from WENB still swears this news is coming out at gamescom. This whole thing is pissing me off, the guys who have played the latest build are not awe...

you da man. Just seen, it skimming through it now. And your right, not the big news we have been promised. See now, questions have to be asked, and this guy has said "there will be no revolutionary changes before launch" Uhhhh ohhhhhhh............. If i dont get this big news, Im...

Can i just say. I couldnt give a fuck about untucked shirts. Next gen gameplay is what the game needs. We might be getting more info in about 20 mins, stay tuned. It'll be from the noobs forum or offical press release.

According to Adam, head cunt on the noobs forum (where you post, cos ive seen you) At 10.17am today he posted. "The video is the news from Konmai, impressions will come from Caniggia and friends today." Bye.

Cannigga will apparently spill the beans about the lastest build on WENB, stay tuned...

I think you need to understand how to read I said this before you jumped in. Good try though

I think the animations havent been put in yet, when they do, I think that's one of the things which is causing people to talk about this huge difference. To me, this video is just to show how the tactics work, and it does a good job of that. Went on fifa forum and took a look, quite a few...

Let him say what he wants to say. Look, the last couple of games have been shit, and this gameplay in that vid doesnt look amazing, so he is right to be skeptical, simple as. Yes, the tactics look good, and yes im sure they work instantly, but the overall gameplay we saw doesnt look great...

There has been a gameplay video release, 2 mins off footage from the earliest build released in may, that was months ago, and it was looking better than 09 already. Ive seen glimpses of a later build as well.

Seen it, actually agree with you about the june thing, see my comment in the other thread. And let me tell you, the tactics and player cards look good, but this better not be anywhere near the finished product, otherwise it aint even gonna be close this year.

Lets give them a chance, lets see what they have got at Gamescom. This playing cards shit actually looks nice you know, nice demonstration proving that these tactics actually work. Pes is obviously going for 'deep' gameplay, I actually think this game is going to have good longevity in it...

I was the one that poosted the eurogamer twitters on here in the 1st place lol. Okay people, just logged in, give me the fucking news!!!! I hear theres some video about on this forum.

I had ISS64 AND ISS 2000, good games, movement was rigid though and goals were easy, you could put some crazy swerve on them and they would go in from anywhere. Personally in my opinion, I think ISS pro evolution soccer on PSX was way ahead of its time. The animations and movements and...

Read the opening post, Whilst konami using the Euphoria engine is unlikely to some, it seem from the below that it could be used in conjunction with motion capture. http://aigamedev.com/open/articles/naturalmotion-euphoria/ "In practice, euphoria is most frequently used as an improvement...

Become a pro is horrible, seriously lol. And yes iss 2000 had it long before fifa.

Lol, you know what, its good entertainment, i dont mind anyone disagreeing with me, as long as they know i will be addressing them if they address me. simple as. I tell you what. I'll pop off for a while and lets see if anyone comes up with a sensible argument. My point today is the...

In the above I said fifa's 50% build is far superior to pes 50% build. And for the last time. ONE OF THE WRITERS OF THIS VERY FORUM WROTE FIFA 09 WAS IN HIS OPINION AHEAD OF PES, SO ITS OBVIOUSLY NOT RIDICULOUS TO HAVE THIS OPINION. You know how stupid some of you sound "You cant say fifa is...

You clown, we are actually talking about ISS/perfect striker and its merits for its time compared to today's games. You dont like it, close your legs and walk away. thanks. Classic PES Fanboy mentality, duh, I know all about this type of tactics system, im using it in fifa 09 right now...

More realistic than what??? Again, I had iss 2000 too, look at the way the player turn and move, its very fucking rigid, nothing like what is being offered in fifa 10 mate, now i appreciate those games for their time, they were good games, but please dont try to convince me that the movement...

I Actually agree with this, in principle, in terms of 'only so much you can do in one year'. But as for this 3 year plan coming to fruition... thats not actually whats being promised is it? The 50% build was a disappointment according the the playtester on this website, with many things not...