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No, in pes players have shooting accuracy, yet you yourself weight the shot with a powerbar, rather than a single button command. If you fill the bar, the ball will go high, you controlled that aspect, you dont press square once and cpu decides wether its a low or high shot.

Neither do I mate, probably because i never said it's ultra realistic, its just more realistic than pes 2009, and to answer your other comment, on the ball is one of the pes 2009's worst aspects, the passing is horrible, hit and miss depending on what the AI decides, as its you pressing a button...

I play for realism, not saying fun doesnt matter, but alot of my fun comes from playing a realistic game of football. Ive always gone for the most realistic game, years ago it was pes5/6, now imo its not. If pes can make the most realistic game again, then i'll support it.

Ermm, not way better, in terms of gamplay, yes, its deffo a step forward. But pes 6 was more complete in terms of longevity. I managed to get 2 years out of that game, cos PES 2008 was such an abortion. But, fifa 09 is more realistic on the pitch.

I found fifa 09 very good, just not for sustained period of time, they need to work on making it more engrossing, because technically, i prefer the gamplay to pes 5/6 because i can weight my own passes and it gives me more control, but it doesnt have the longevity and customisation ablity that...

Welcome to common sense, at last. Football video games are moving on, and have moved on since pes 5/6.

One more rant Here's one of the major reasons why PES is on the decline. The level of feedback some of the fans give is poor. PES2009 is the 2nd worst pes of all time, with PES2008 the undisputed champ. And you got so-called pes veterans saying "Lets talk about the positives...

What the fuck does that have to do with anything said above? Nothing. We are talking about comparing Passing, keepers, and AI in both games, not just movement, in those aspects, fifa is pretty much ahead. So stick to the questions, and dont be coming out with the same old post which...

Yes, but fifa has better shooting animations, and more are being added. You cannot compare passing pes to fifa right now, seriously. Keepers are better in fifa imo because they can actually hold the ball. + Manual control + 50 new movement cycles + 360 Movement The double...

You know what, I think PES 3 is my all time favorite, If i can remember correctly that was the first pes with Licensed kits and teams, the advantage rule, I think it was the first PES with the european competitions in the master league, and others things, that was the best one imo, but im open...

Ya, forgot about that, no need to edit european comps this year.

1)The people who tested 360 movement said it was a major improvement. You know another major improvement they have made involves the way defenders mark space rather than the man, you can see it in the 'fifa10 leaked gameplay video' (real or not real, you decide). 2) There was a poster on...

Yes, the stat attributes in fifa 09 are shite, so what, im not arguing that, were arguing about which game gives you more control. Right, no more PES lessons for today I think.

Mate FIFA cock up quite a few things in FIFA 09, show me one post where I have said FIFA 09 IS perfect and bug free. Point is, the game still gives you more control than PES2009, thats a fact for the reasons ive spent 2 days explaining to you. CPU Automated= Less control Full Manual...

Log off yeah.

The stupidity. Im talking about FIFA's PK system, that has a powerbar, which is designed to give you more control, PES pk's are CPU automated, they give you less control, now for the science part. PES ARE GOING TO USE IT IN PES 2010 Which alone tells you fifa's...

What are you talking about? In fifa the PK's are controlled by a powerbar, which you control as well as the direction. You know........the system PES2010 might be getting this year and are calling it a major improvement? lol. Next noob please. All I see is the same people making...

Whats with all these girls on the forum crying into their thongs today? Mate lets put it like this, dry your panty hose, people attack me, its part of debates. You wanna talk PES, start by educating some of your sisters on how to judge football games. How can a game with CPU automated...

5/6 attempts and you still cant answer the question, fuck all this crying about FIFA having no soul because it porked your girlfriend behind your back etc etc. Answer the question. How can it take more skill, to let the computer take Pk's for you, weight passes for you, take control of...

Still cant answer the questions. Mate, seriously, you shouldnt even be on this forum, this is for people who actually know about PES, fucks sake you didnt even know the CPU was taking those PK's for you, you actually fucking thought it was your skill that was making them go in. hahaha...