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Crowsy, ignore the fanboys, follow my list above, take a look at the fifa 10 thread in the 'other gaming' forum for full details on the game and check the pes2010 changes, then make your own mind up,

What does this have have to do with the questions you have failed to answer for nearly 2 days. Answer the question directly. Dont talk about fluid animations or anything like that, answer the question you were asked. How can it take more skill, to let the computer take Pk's for you, weight...

1) you play the Official Serie A, La Liga, Bundesliga and a few other liscensed leagues, however when you play in a fully liscened league you cannot swap, transfer or change players in your team- This is called league mode 2) Master League is different, it is made up of 4 unlicensed leagues...

You still dodgin my question from yesterday eh, you said FIFA had no skill. How can it take more skill, to let the computer take Pk's for you, weight passes for you, take control of shots for you, through balls for you, tackle for you..... As opposed to weighing your own passes, having...

Jeez, everyone is targeting me at the moment, Okay, your turn proevofan88.... Bottom line, you dont have to agree with what I say, but the bottom line is, I believe alot of what I say is very accurate. I came on here demanding a feedback forum for this site, and PESGAMING delivered that...

*Yawn* heres the question for a 3rd time. Which game gives you more control...... The one with CPU automated passing and shooting and through ball, and tackling and penalties? Or the game which offers you manual control over almost all aspects of gameplay? How can it take more skill, to let...

Its all a bit of banter, the forum needs traffic, and what better way than exposing jokers pretending to know about football games. If any serious fans wanna get back on topic, fine by me. If people disagree, thats fine, they wanna flame, thats fine, But dont fucking tell me a game with...

More fucking crying from someone who obviously cant answer the question he was asked Once again this one goes out to your boyfriend too (Shankly is god) who is so far up seabass's arse, im not sure colonic irrigation could remove him. Which game gives you more control...... The one with CPU...

Mate you just said one of themost moronic things ever of all time above. Apparently CPU automated controls give you more freedom than manual controls............l-o-l. See above for the response And where are the REAL pes players like amatuer? enough of these noobs.

Moronic comment of the day, no skill required even though the game offers you full manual control, while the PES AI assists you in every part of the game, passing to shooting, you think your good because you press one button and computer sorts out the direction for you, you wouldn't last 2...

Honestly, how some of these dick jockeys are calling PES realistic, when the running animations alone look like they were modelled on donkey kong country... i just dont know. Even the basics in that game arent correct.

Lol, your right, next time i want realism ill play the game with no manual control options, 8 directional movement, a 4 league career mode where i have to be the same team forever, an AI which just runs mindlessly at whoever has the ball, one of the worst collision dectection systems of all...

Your correct to a degree, im suprised fifa havent added more of these teams in the 'rest of the world' section, PES seem to have done this which is a good move for them. To be fair ive seen feedback from quite a few fans asking for romanian league. The russian league has been added to fifa...

Good point, the tilt camera angle was pure quality, why they removed that shit il never know, the camera angles on pes 2008/9 was shite, you cant aim up for the near post as well as in previous games. I use to have a tilt of 5/6 on PES 6. lol.

No one here knows for sure yet, Ive seen a supposedly leaked vid of fifa 10 which i put up in the fifa 10 thread, you can see it there. The journos who tested it said its amazing, if the video was legit, it looks very good too. See the vid in the thread and you will see why there is hype...

We know FIFA's MM doesnt have the longevity of Master league, but the gamplay is superior, note how ea are revamping the manager mode, whilst PES have the same old shitty Master league for year and years, it took them about 10 years to put real money in it, slow progress is an understatement...

Yes but we are talking about Konami taking things that are already in another game and trying to pass them off as major changes on a next generation console, errrmmm no they are not. Whats also hilarious is few of the ideas actually tackle the major problems the PES series is having, aka...

No doubt about it, fifa rippped off PES mercilessly, here's the difference, Fifa isnt the series in decline and it isnt nicking pes's minor ideas and then passing them off as headline changes. And my point is, that when Fifa makes its own ideas, they are shit, then when pes takes them they are...

Dude about 2 years ago I was exactly the same, PES was the only game I really played, I fucking refuse to post on fifa forum because im not one of the morons that actually thinks fifa was anywhere near PES from about 96 onwards, and I been visting here for years (way b4 i posted). But Im not...

To date FIFA's... edit mode= Garbage/ non existant (Although you can edit generic staduim names this year and pick which teams gets which stadiums) Trophy Celebrations= some of the worst Ive ever seen. (this will continue in fifa 10, which is quite disgraceful to be honest) And yet its way...