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Whats up man? I have most stuff on semi-auto, including shooting, shooting on assisted is a little too easy for me, only thing i got on Assisted is through balls, I got lobbed pass on manual too. Its still hard for me on world class, won the league tho by 15 points in the end with AC Milan 1st...

I dont see the problem with this thread at all, many of the people who played ISS Pro from day one are pretty pissed of with Konami's recent efforts and to be honest, Pro evo needs people to criticize the game, its the only chance you guys have the finally someone might take a bit of notice and...

Totally agreed, but its funny how people are kidding themselves PES is actually going places, esentially its the same game now, that it was about 5/6 years ago, it hasnt moved on. Another year on and people are still asking for the same old improvements which are rarely ever added. Its no...

The end. It cant really be spelled out any clearer can it. PES 2008 was shite, fans hoped it was a blip, played PES 2009, realized it was no blip, switched sides.

Finally after looking around the forum, it says it all. People slagging off Fifa without having played it properly, yet when we start talking about ways to improve pro, so many of those improvements are already in fifa. -Better player movement -Better Player animation -More in depth master...

This is the truth. If anyone wants to cross over to Fifa this year, THEY NEED TO PLAY THE GAME PROPERLY AND AT LENGTH. If your a Pro evo fanboy ( like i once was) and your have every setting on assisted or casual controls (CPU helping you) then start complaining, that makes no point, you...

They are getting pushed down because the thread was removed as a sticky, perhaps in the hope it would bomb and that people would forget how bad pes 2009 is, sorry, not going to happen. In many cases, its the guys who played it from day one that are most upset, as they have seen the transition...

Your chattin about a game you havent even played properly, go ahead and judge an entire game on a demo, that's well clever lol. It aint my job to convince you of anything mate, the information is out there for you, whether you choose to look or not is up to you, like i said, for an in depth...

Definitely, i really think that game is the only logical step in terms of playing a great football game post PES 6, EA have actually payed homage to pro evolution by taking so many of their ideas, this in itself shows pro evolution was superior over the last few years, but fifa has taken these...

Too be honest, world class is the limit for me, the AI is so bloody hard to tackle once you play the top teams, perhaps im not that great on it, im not sure, for me, i find professional to be the right balance for me, but all power to you to be able to play on legendary, because your right, the...

I agree, Konami can come back, they gotta do what EA did, which was listen to the fans, give the fans what they want. They have time to make improvements that are needed, if pro evo can introduce things like weighted passing, sort out the AI and player movement, add new player animations, and...

If you'd like to get back on topic, let me know, Cos im interested to see anyone make a valid case for PES 2009 being as good as the PS2 versions of old.

Didnt read like a valid point tho mate. Some of your posts say otherwise. At the end of the day its all banter mate, as i said in another thread, you are entitled your own opinion, if you wish to post why you feel PES 2009 is the best game on the market now, even better than the old PS2...

What the fuck? Have you actually played the game properly, on fifa its ridiculously hard to get past one player let alone 2/3. This aint the place to go in depth about fifa, if you got into the 'i hate PES 2009 thread' you will see very detailed explainations on why fifa has improved this...

Sorry but this post is spot on. At the end of the day, PES 2009 just is not a realistic interpretation of modern football. ISS PRO EVOLUTION all the way to PES 6 were without doubt the best football games money could buy, but pes 2008/9 are a backward step, if you watch a real game of football...

Thats cos ur easily pleased mate, how can it be the best football game out there when PES6 is still available in shops, or pes 5, or pes 4, or 3, etc etc. People like you are the reason the pro evo aint gonna get better, cos as soon as somebody whose actually played the game from day one...

How dare you criticize Pes 2009, its beyond criticism, us fanboys that have been playing the game since PES 5 know this is the pinnacle of next generation football and the AI is superb. Dont question konami, just hand over your hard earned money every year for a game which cant even surpass the...

But pro evo hasnt evolved, thats the point mate, how can it have evolved if the PS2 versions from years ago are far superior? I didnt know evolution meant going backwards.

Each to their own, If people wanna play a game with, -Out of date rosters -Bugs all over the place, in both next generation and PS2 versions - A so called next generation game with worse player animations than PS2 version. lmao -The ability to run though entire defenses with one player...

Fanboys, seriously, its a shame, cos a few people on here are wasting their time with a sub par game for the sake of some misguided loyalty. Konami doesnt give a shit about these people and how loyal they are, which is why they have been releasing pretty much the same game with different kits...