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Sorry mate, but PES 2009 is no simulation. And as i have said before, the AI doesn't outplay you, it disadvantages you, its not clever, it has one ploy, rush at whoever has the ball, if the CPU touches you, you go flying off, the ball, then run run run. If you like the game i for one am happy...

Be honest, before playing PES 2009 you owned a copy of Mario Soccer didnt you.

obviously When the AI chooses so, any player can play like ronaldinho, regardless of stats it doesnt matter, game is crazy. Teamvision is farcial, one min the AI is fucking awful and you spank it, next min its superhuman. No jokes, i was running at the final CPU defenders with Ronaldinho, and...

If the stadiums are with EA, how come you get them in the PS2 version? Whats the point in integrating the CL into the one game mode where u cant transfer or buy new players? And the ps2 version has more licensed Spanish sides straight out of the box than the next gen versions do, what the fuck...

Course it aint mate, ill be honest, ive played on top players for years, what annoys me about PES 2008/09 is the gay AI robbing me of clean sheets the whole time. On PES 2008 i won D1 and D2 leagues on Very Hard/Top Player, straight away. Point is the scorelines were fucking crazy, 6-2's...

I cant see it either, the game is on crack and its very end to end, the computer tends to make about 3 passes to get to your box then its run run run run shoot. Pes 2009 is the Mc donalds of football games, quick, pre-prepared and leaves a nasty aftertaste. No jokes, i saw some people...

1) Cos you got shooting on assisted mate, play the game again, set shooting to Manual, then come back and talk about the ball always going in. 2) Heading on FIFA actually involves TIMING mate, holding down square half an hour before the ball arrives at your head, and the ball going in the...

Of course, but thats how bad PES has got over the last 2 years. U get these fucking knobs who pass it to Ronaldinho and its RUN RUN RUN RUN RUN, shoot. RUN RUN RUN RUN Cutback, shoot. RUN RUN RUN RUN shoot, follow up rebound and shoot. Followed by..... "Greatest game ever" "Get into...

For me, its the way it plays in midfield, it shocked me. AI doesnt rush you down the whole time mindlessly chasing the ball. It will contain, watch, hold, when you move into an area, it goes for the ball, as a result midfield can be very compact and you have no chance of running through it with...

Of course it isnt and the idea that its far easier than pes 2009, when PES2009 gives you little control over players beats me. PES 2009 is very automated, you dont control as much. Example, you dont have to think as about weighting crosses and passes, its a one button press, cpu does the rest...

In a nutshell, the whole game play system needs re working. It doesnt represent a realistic game of football in any sense. Pes 2009 is a bunch of coke-whores running around mindlessly on a bit of green. The game doesnt represent a tactical, thoughtful game of football, and if anything as they...

Nah, thats not the case. This whole "FIFA is easy" thing is a myth imo, the AI is far clever in terms of marking space, making runs, and compacting the midfield. In PES the CPU does most of the stuff for you, you dont have to properly weight passes and through balls and all the AI does is...

7. Is it realistic to have only 8 directions of movement? 8. Is it realistic for goalkeepers to continously spill shot on goal into the paths of on coming strikers? 9. Is realistic to get 0 mins of added time in a football game? 10 Is it realistic for the CPU to give away penatlies by taking...

This is a pro evo forum, so out of respect i wont go into detail. Put it this way, ive been playing ISS/PRO for nearly 10 years, I dont anymore and i do believe the game you speak of is outstanding, especially considering the rubbish that company made for years and years. But each to their own.

Another dumb decision by seabass, its not much to ask is it? PES 2009 is a half-assed game just like 2008 imo, so many simple things could have improved the game, and the suggestion made above is a prime example. Why cant we have real money in the master league mode? Why cant we switch teams...

Case closed. There is a thread for this, and i have made my comments in that thread, but seabass is liar and thats a fact, unless anybody would like the link to the video where he claims he made the stadiums more 'atmospheric' in PES 2009. lmao, hilarious considering the crowd noise and...

Definitely, Konami brought this crap in under the guise of 'teamvision', but its simply ramped up AI cheating. The main CPU tactic, is simply to rush which ever one of your players has the ball with about 3 attackers, if you successfully pass it around them and exploit the gaps they leave, you...

The AI has always cheated in pro evo, but in the last 2 years its got out of control to be honest. The game has been made harder not because the AI can actually play good football, but because at the key moments (on very hard/top player) the CPU disables the AI players and surrounding you whilst...

PES 6 by a Long shot. -Player movement is alot less rigid -Passing is more accurate. -Collision dectection is far better and AI controlled players like Messi and Ibra are world class footballers, not beings from another dimension who can run through entrie defences on the regular -PES6...

Definitely, and i'd like to say Beynd thought has been spot on for most of this long drawn out arguement. Let me just say, i've been playing International Superstar Soccer since N64, years before Iss pro evolution came out on PSX. I had ISS 2000 on N64 so let me start by saying, Pro NEVER...