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Yeah, but it feels so much nicer using triggers rather than clicking a button. For driving games and shooting games they're a big plus. Easier to use like your thumb being all over the place on the analogue stick when you're playing an intense game like PES what requires a lot of movement of...

Better for driving games? Better for shooters/FPS'ers? Better for PES? Playstation pad has got shit triggers and the analogue sticks are poor compared to the 360 ones The layout is old. Times moved on and the analogue stick should be in the the primary position not squashed together at the...

They release the game in most of Europe before the UK to stop people ordering it from the UK because it's cheaper over here.

Don't be silly. It was the best about 15 years ago. Yeah, there's a few of them about, was wondering if anyone could recommend the best one. P.S I've found it the Cronus Adapter but it's expensive just for a little usb device. http://cronusdevice.com/order-cronus/cronus-device.html

Anyone know what the best wireless ps3 pad with a 360 pad layout is? I've just found about the Cronus Adapter what let's you play with a xbox pad on the ps3 or vice versa wirelessly but it was only announced at e3 2012 so don't think it's on sale yet:(.

Played quite a few full matches on this demo now and the goalkeeping is a huge improvement over what konami have served us lately. A few minor quibbles with the demo is they still have the stupid kick off where your players get in each others way and just go stumbling off and leave the ball...

Got it for the PC now and able to have 10/15 minute matches using a proper controller:ninja:, demo just keeps giving. Would go out and buy the game as it is. Penalty shoot outs are almost identical to last year apart from maybe a couple of new celebration's, bloody hard to try and miss the target.

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We can't be too critical of this demo or nitpicking little things because this is like a beta demo. I'll reserve full judgement until I play the actual game, but I like the direction they're heading in. This early code of PES 2013 is already head and shoulders above 2012 in every aspect...

The goals i've conceded on superstar mode feel like they've actually been properly scored and because of my poor defending unlike last years horrid cheat feel to the AI goals on superstar in 2012. One thing i'm struggling to come to terms with is using the analogue stick on the ps3. My thumb...

@sminky Yeah, I've seen that flick quite a bit. D'Alessandro's a right cunt for it. There will be big improvements for the next demo though so I'm actually hopeful of a good PES this year now . I remember how God awful the first demo was last year compared to the second demo.

One of the big flaws I've noticed is your opponents defence can get exposed to easy, that's in superstar. Other than that I'm happy with the game. Ill post a better review of the demo soon but can't stop playing.:joel:

Yeah. Downloading now.

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Is that promoting the game or is there a film coming out as well?

All the 3d GTA's were never the best graphically at the time of release like you said Ali. They can never compete with linear games graphics like Max Payne.

It's just a shit system what Konami use and needs totally scrapping and done from scratch.

This one!

But I know never to expect top graphics for a game like GTA because of the size of the game combined with the console limitations, but I just think it looks really nice the second shot for an open world game. I expect the graphics to be a slightly more polished IV. Hopefully it comes out for...