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ya beat me to it Tom, there is close to 30 hours between the first explanation and the last one.. all newbies trying to get their post counts up.. cept for Gunplay, he actually explained in a very helpful way...

sure that wasn;t the PES3 doctored gif that was floating around?

very very strange.. how's ya do it?? or did ya just do a nor feint and happened automatically..

yea.. post a movie if anyone does it.. or the elastico... BTW tom pain.. i love the Sig.. its classic...

shevchenko the legend scored one for me... thats the only 1 i have ever scored..

Go to player development.. that is their development curve.. once that starts going down.. or levelling out they will not gain points.. they will lose them... diff players have different curves.. players like nedved and pires have the opposite type, they have it so they gain points slowly over...

yea.. its annoying.. but.. is the site still being moved to the other server.. or.. is it still being decided?

i have always perferred to just use current players.. as it adds more realism..

well it could be because of your WEFA Ranking... good players dont want to join shitty clubs..

i think i wil hire this game, and be bored of it by the time i have to take it back.. after you get over the skills, i dont think it will have the lastativity.

yea.. but why does every sound track need to be filled with gangsta music? not everyone who plays GTA wants rap and hip hop... there should really have a radio station for each type of music, that the target demographic for this game perfers.. being that the target demographic, would be...

i dont believe you can.. but what is cool is that you can sign them for like nothing...

yea.. i have played PES for 2 years now.. and i have only ever scored 1, actually connected with 3 and only attempted a handfull

i have attempted one.. but the ball got blocked before it got to me.. its the same as PES3, but need the ball to be crossed slightly behind you.. it is more a fluke than anything...

1. What about long passes? For example: In PES3 when you would be on the left side in midfield and you would play a long pass to the right side of the midfield, the ball would go floating and a opponent would usually intercept the long ball. Are there still "floating" long balls in PES4??? I...

yea.. thats mores of what i play... works really well...

good prank to play on ya mates though eh?? just have a look at it like you are really proud of it, do the "ohh fuck i hit start" and go back into it.. and all of a sudden you're goal turns into 3...

they are both official, but Football Manger is being made by SI Games, and CM by good old Eidos, so really the official sequel to CM03/04 is CM5 being made by Eidos, but both are meant to be quite a lot different from each other and CM03/04

Pique for sure.. well.. he is not really that agile, he is left footed though.. but he has an awesome curve, it doesnot peak until close to 5 years from the start of the game.. he does have average stats at the start, but afte 1 season, some of his stats has gone up 10 points and for me he has...

i play the bottom one that mutu has drawn up for us... except i use Guily and Deco more as wider more forward wingers and Iniesta sits on the bench, and Xavi plays a holding role in midfield infront of 4 at the back..