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shankly:shocking:, i don't know you like this mate:no:. u usually say we atleast have to wait for a demo before we start jumping to conclusions so even if we are used to the way this company works we have to give them the benefit of the doubt don't we. innocent untill proven guilty right;).

still some try to deny this,funny huh?:rolleyes:

well i'm not too picky, either one would be fine:) and both would be fantastic.:w00t:happy:

Taste......is a very personal thing, so debating about it is always pointless.

WOW! even though its not a big mac i am, loving it........... that takes improved animations of the list and now i have to wait for info concerning the response time and better AI to make the game much more challenging and tactics to make the teams play as they do in real life. what's gonna be...

yup, i'm hoping the same thing and especially now that FIFA will be entering the simulation battle, by implementing meaningfull stats to the players in their new game, KONAMI can't afford to mess up.

yes, and that was just lazy from KONAMI if u ask me because a lot of option file makers produced a more challenging game just by adjusting those sliders. as AMATEUR said the off the ball movement has gotten terrible over the years especially out of the box. u can't count on your players making...

yeah the feeling u get when squeezing one through a few defenders in PES 2010 is sometimes better then the resulting goal so i think they nailed that aspect of the game. your understanding of the game also comes into play i think because gone are the days were u just pointed to the player u...

agree, and that's what i thought FIFA was going for this year with the "personality +" introduction but after seeing the examples i guess they will just be adding stats to the players this year. which still is a great thing for FIFA so don't get me wrong but that doesn't say anything yet about...

agree with u on most, except for the "resources mean nothing" part because with the resources you can buy the knowhow in most situations so i'm still not ruling out that they can nail it at the first time of trying. but keep in mind that i'm well aware of the fact that no one markets their game...

good argument but i think u are forgetting the resources that EA have so i wouldn't rule it out completely

well at last FIFA has my attention, because now they are finally entering the simulation battle with PES so it will be very interesting this year. this looks fantastic.

......and better graphics too so FIFA must have one hell of a GAMEPLAY to make me consider them. when will we see some videos i wanna see if the animations have improved ?

when will they kick that cartoonish look,when will they learn. for christsake these next gen consoles are able to handle much more and still we are getting this for another year. makes me really wonder about the rest cause the visuals look the same.

now those sound like steps in the right direction. hopefully those types of passes you mentioned also depend on the skill of the player u are using and not only on the skill of the person playing the game. those different body types also will give the game a much more realistic look so it all...

not exactly eight times but on eight or so visits and a few matches every time and sorry but i wasn't impressed at all. FIFA doesn't need that much of time to get used to compared to when u play a new PES. FIFA'S progress compared to PES is much better but then again they have to, because PES...

i would write slow if it helped you but i don't think it would so read it slow yourself ok. yes PES has lost its crown but not to FIFA to the older PES and that's why a lot of PES fans still play these games with updated files and patches. if FIFA was that good they wouldn't bother because its a...

are you for real?:shocking: FIFA takes skill...,PES has no individualism....because the players can't juggle the ball.:shocking: you must be playing another FIFA and have never played the PES' i've played cause i've heard of those who would say anything to win an argument but you just took it to...

let me make one thing clear i am not amongst those who think PES has to regain its crown because if you ask me they never lost it. the expectations were sky high when they moved to next gen but who could blame us when u look at what they did on the ps2. that's why most of us are dissapointed...

:D hopefully you are ok and yeah i like the fact that you now have to point to the space you want to play the ball to instead of pointing to the player because it gives u much more possibilities.;)