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Firstly it's not Gimli; apparently it's Thorin's father, Thrain (remains to be seen if he'll look like that in The Hobbit). Secondly, it looks a fucking abomination. Having Gollum in it is just laughable.

Improved graphics aside, the impact literally looks the same as it did back in the first Smackdown on the Playstation.

We need another member of our shit-smelling gang Sminky, so you'd may as well.

The problem is LM it looks like none of us are going on anyway. You should have joined our shit gang. You could have had it all. Phat, Jonno, Apps - fancy a few games tonight? I'm as shit as anyone online.

On soft-lock? No thanks. I haven't been online for eight days and even then have only played a handful of games, whereas you seem to have been on all hours so you'd have a distinct advantage in weapons. I just don't see how you can come on here giving it the big'un when you've got the...

I thought the soft-lock motto was: 'Because we're too cowardly to play on free aim'?

A sad end by all accounts.

If Hong Kong action/crime films have taught us anything, it's that you can go undercover and still murder as many people as you like. I'm glad to see this tradition is being upheld in game form. Violence looks absolutely top-notch. Could be special.

You insensitive bastard Jonno.

Fuck off with your 'maybe me'. We're in this together, me and you from here to eternity.

It's nothing like GTA if that's what you mean. Very much like the Max Payne games.

Jonno is in. Just had a fun session with him. That Rhyno_Unchained cunt was really fucking me off in the last game. We'll have to try with the four of us later.

Good man. Join the faggot brigade: http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/crew/the_pesgaming_mob Is this you btw? http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/member/appswah

If (fingers crossed) we sort out the problems we're having, we still need a few more people to get the most out of online. I can't understand why more people on here aren't buying this. Watch the adverts and trailers. Incredible gunfights and violence - what more could you ask for? Developed by...

What about 'The Sodomites' Jonno?

You gone backwards out of a window yet Jonno, or off a building?

Pleased about the variety of trains, the chair lift (for skiing?) and the cable car. Hopefully the trains can be controlled and will be available in multiplayer. It would be something else if you could cut the wire and send a cable car to oblivion. If they put the trains and planes in...

It's all we wanted.

Fuck you. Didn't bother me with Mexico and Port Elizabeth in RDR...

We'll have to start a thread for the PS3 Mob - The Cuntsboro Creek Crew.