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hey TECH what do u think simulation means ?. that's the big difference between FIFA and PES and that's just what u don't like about PES and we do. you want to put everything on manual so that the stats and strenght of the teams don't matter but the outcome only relies on your skill only. well...

too bad i have to go because it just got interesting but duty calls so later. btw ELVIS(TECH) HAS LEFT THE BUILDING. LOL. he's back now i'm really pissed i gotta go.

for real man, WELCOME TO PESGAMING and were have u been all those years seeing you just registered this year ?.

WOAH,i was just about to leave but this just got interesting so you have my attention. TECH fasten your seatbelt.

YUP looks like it and i will be getting both this year again unless the DEMO'S convince me otherwise.

this isn't an excuse its a fact and afterwards the game improved drastically. i'm not saying its a bad thing but its not all RUTTER.

don't forget the KONAMI developers that came along with him.......and their great marketing team.

completely agree.

i'm guessing TECH hasn't watched the video because it's something positive about PES or should we give him some more time maybe he's busy checking out a FIFA video. lol.

COME ON i'm just stating the obvious so stop defending him you act as if i insulted him. freedom of speech still counts on this site doesn't it or is this becoming another WENB?.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nUf7otEYTE&feature=player_embedded IS IT JUST ME OR DOES THIS LOOK GOOD.

:shocking: for someone who's loved PES in the past why are you so negative. why didn't you just say ah ok so there is still hope...... and if you had seen it already why didn't you share it with us as you do with all the positive news from FIFA. I guess u just gave yourself away just...

i'm guessing PERFECTSTRIK may be right then. SEABASS CONFIRMS GAMESCOM CODE IS ‘A MONTH OLD’ http://winningelevenblog.com/blog/se...s-a-month-old/

yeah that's why i don't really care were the ideas come from or who implements it first as long as it's a good idea it must be used.if it makes the games better in the end, we as gamers are the winners.

the problem i have with u saying this is that you can never know were the ideas came from in the first place so cant know who is stealing from who. i heard a while back that 2 KONAMI developers moved to EA so who can tell me they didn't take a list of things that KONAMI was about to implement...

agree, if it's a good idea why not use it. the whole world lives by this so why wouldn't the gaming world.

:shocking: come on man u can't honestly tell me u don't agree with that.:(

only two things on that list will mean something to the gameplay. the custom tactics and the 360 movement and as far as i know the custom tactics are just about to get better but PES already had them and as for 360 movement that's a new thing for both games and still somehow the freedom you had...

yup that sound like football right, too bad i didn't experience it while playing FIFA 2009 and i played it for 3 moths before i imported PES 2009 and all the things u just summed up are much more noticeable for me in PES.

still you need a certain technique to make certain passes. not everyone can pull off a accurate pass with the outside of the foot with enough pace and curl for example ( most brazilian are known for this ). not every player can be a midfielder like XAVI or FABREGAS why would you think ?. the...