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Last word. Debate or leave. These are the only two choices. Edit: This applies to everyone, just before you get your knickers in a twist 777.

Play nice, all of you.

Had a feeling you'd be fuming after that! Was some poor decisions and yes, Villa were lucky really, but face it, you looked shite in front of goal today.

A good point Bammers. Don't worry though, this thread will be deleted once I have done with it ;)

You can't! What do you want deleting & I'll take a look at it for you...

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Completed files in this section only. No questions.

Now that is a review I hold more truck with, one of a respected member with a considerable PES knowledge (and the co-creator of one of the best OF's to ever grace the forums).

I tend to use GameFAQ's. They have both official linked reviews as well as user written ones. I don't use it as a specific to buy or not to buy guide, more of a find out what the game does, so I know if it will be the sort of thing I fancy. If I'm unsure then I do what I did with PES 08/09/ &...

:facepalm: How soon we forget. That conversation was in relation to an IGN review. Remember my reference to the IGN review for the seminal PES 2008 that they gave 9.2/10? Guess not. They also gave PES 2011 9/10, not exactly a bad score.. they gave the distinctly average PES 2010 8.7/10. By...

Isn't FIFA's development team in Canada..?

Welcome to the forums! Good choice on PES6 (Though 5 was better :tongue:)

PS pads are made for girls hands. 360 pads are for real men... apart from Jin, obviously. (Disclaimer: I may also add that I have both and can say for FPS & driving games the 360 controller pisses all over the PS pad, but for footy games the PS pad will always be king.) (Disclaimer #2: My...

Yes, but in the game itself they are very difficult to pull off effectively. PES's step-over then 45 push was an instant win. Let's not forget PES's weakness for the cut-back and the amazing PES2009 slow zig-zag dribble that made defenders back off for no apparent reason. All this is...

PES used to have decent passing PES 6 & prior. Why should I have to wait until now for it again? Don't give a toss about animation & gloss. ISS was frankly laughable, but it played well and that's what I'm after. Two of the big draws with FIFA10/11 for me were the Manager mode, which actually...

Moved to correct place.

It's possible, yes. But if Konami stopped paying for good reviews of their recent un-evolution releases, then perhaps they could have afforded a few more licences to attract the FIFA fans back...? Just putting it out there. 2008 - Fast, crap. 2009 - 2008 with a 'slight' improvement, but no...

Which is a good job really. imagine how super you'd be then!?! Seriously though, you cannot have a go at IGN claiming they are FIFA biased. They reviewed PES 2008 which was quite frankly a huge pile of shite and gave it 9.2 out of 10. You pay's your money... well, you know the rest.

That does explain the hip clothing from another planet. Jonno does have a point though. You are making a decision based on your opinion, without actually playing the 'finished' version, inclusive of all it's modes. Some might describe you therefore as a PES fanboy... Not me though. I think...

PES has always been a PS thing for me. Tried 2010 briefly on the 360, but the controller just never feels right for PES, too many years of PES on PS I guess.