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It was in 09 aswell, now it's slightly more evident because of response issues.

Pes needs to improve the defending system (they need to close you down earlier and tackle more) but less AI cheating (make it possible to outrun the defender). Also sort out the movements. But with all that, pes 2010 is still really enjoyable. Much better than pes 09. And goal variety is there...

^I guess in time, they'll be updated. BTW is it really true now about this famous update?

The curve is the EXPECTED development and the dot is how you developed so far.

Yes, but the stats will change according how you play in the scout match. In the ps3 it's the same thing. You have a given starting stats, then you play the scout match and they will increase according on how well you did.

I am in the 2nd season as you know. I got selected with the national for euro qualifiers I guess. Anyway I played 4 games and scored 3 already. Now I will start but the stupid game form decided that all of a sudden I would get a violet form.:no::realmad: Now I couldn't play the last match with...

^It's all the same meaning even on ps3 (I play on ps3), the agility is position dependent.

^True but in pes sometimes it's too random.:)

That's true. It's how I see it aswell. But I hope the big patch will be released with all tranfers and more faces.:)

How did you get a 90 is stamina and agility? I got 82 in stamina and 86 agility.

^Confusing patch. But thanks anyway. I know what you mean though.

Now that's a good post.:)

^Skipping past defenders with stankovic? That's low level difficulty for sure. You can outrun the defender with stankovic on top player. This pes vs fifa is an argument that will never end. So play what you think is more realistic. I know, both feel outdated. Compare them to assassins creed 2...

Useless? Why? I cannot view the link. And you can't get trophies? I downloaded the latest patch today and I got long ranger trophy so they aren't unlocked. Or maybe some pother patch?

I downloaded this patch. What did it do exactly?

^Ofcourse it was. You got no defence, scripting, much worse keepers and much easier than 2010. Also it was like 3 times faster than pes 2010.

It was my first try so I was frustrated because I found it pretty hard. ;) Now it's much better. I am currently in season 2 with the same team because they're in the europa league and I want that. ;) In the 1st season I ended up scoring 11 goals and assisting only 1. I am playing as a RMF.

^But not in the 1st season because the game does everything to make you get less good ratings. Also because it's hard aswell.

EDIT: Accidental double post. Will delete when the board lets me.

^I agree but only on some aspects of pes. For example the speed is faster than in reality,and yes it needs better depth like at least a power bar in passing and better player movements. But apart from that, pes plays really good. It resembles real aspects of football. And also fifa is not by far...