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Wow. So many options. Great editing aswell. :)

^I know but they say it's because of animations. I still don't agree anyway. As for edit mode. It's looking great again.

reviews don't mean anything. Pes isn't even out yet so how can they declare fifa the winner? Good one eurogamer, you confirmed my thoughts. It doesn't matter if they have the final copy, all that matters is that they probably played pes for 1 day and that's it. It just doesn't work that way...

Some really good faces. But on some they could have done better. Giovinco for example and they could have updated the juve players. Amauri has longer hair, Grygera changed his hairstyle over a year ago, etc... I feel that the serie A isn't given importance as the EPL which is unfair. But...

^I never said they had plenty of bugs either. I said that no game is without bugs. But yes, pes 09 and 08 had much more and the bugs that they encountered in pes 10 so far, hasn't been mentioned so we cannot talk about them.

Good. So is it a better code than the pes demo? (not we demo)

Yeah saw it earlier. There are other videos too. The faces are really good.

So you tested the online demo?

Ok fair enough. :) I know, but still I think we should wait for the final release. GK's are always a problem no matter how you look at it. :) I never it it improved that much but in the we demo it's better than pes one for sure. Oh and that 2 sec delay doesn't happen all the time. But yes...

WHAT THE...? First of all. I always said this. I'll wait till the end and then judge myself because reviews are all opinions. I always get both games and last year I said all out that fifa 09 was the better game. Don't make my posts seems bigger than they are. I said that EVERYONE who...

^True. But let's be more fair and give both games a month chance? That way we would know better. Because from my experience, pes is best reviewed when played over a long period.

I know but I just don't agree with it. :) Also I'll get both games as usual and then decide which is better for me. I'll be fair as always.

I am sorry, but I still say you are COMPLETLY WRONG and you're also being a complete idiot. I know this game has bugs but guess what? SO DID PES 5, 4 3 AND 6. They all had glitches that by time you get used to them. This is no different. And deeply flawed?:no::laugh: There isn't half the...

^But you are wrong on 1 thing. Pes had some bad reviews, but it had good reviews aswell and it got more good ones than bad ones so far. So what truth is that? Also if you truly have played pes in the past, you would know how much time you had to give it to truly master and appreciate it.

And pes faces kills fifas easily. Also animations shouldn't be counted under graphics because afterall a graphic thing is not a moving object. It's something still. Though IGN counted them with graphics. I just don't see it right.

^Creativity is a really good thing in we 10 demo.:) Takes time to get used to. I never said it isn't. Yes I know random passes do happen, but at least alot less than pes 08 and 09. Like ps2 versions sort of. I also want passing direction to be better, but as I said, it's not because it's...

Reviews are opinions. Also the only one where I felt it was biased was the eurogamer review. It was clear. But anyway as I said, reviews are all opinions, but that review was unfair to say the least.

^That depends on the team and their strategy and coach. It can happen in reality. Liverpool vs milan in CL for example. I know it's rare but it can happen.

^In we 10 demo the more you play it the better you become aswell and you missed the point about defenders AI. I was trying to be fair unlike you.

^But wait a minute let's be fair. . But in fifa the defenders can take the ball easily so the trick stick isn't as awesome as you say it is. But it is great though I expected players like messi to be able to keep the ball more. At least in pes you can keep the ball (the we demo not pes one) and...