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exactly.:)

^Well I also said that by judging the WE 10 demo vs fifa demo I preferred the WE demo so i'll pick up pes if I only had to choose 1.

Why does everyone that says something against pes always says about the passing being assisted and the AI decides for you? The answer is no. The direction is decided by you and by the footballer's passing ability. That's accurate enough for individuality.

All very positive. It makes me want the game more/

Some people yes but not everyone. And to answer your question. No pes 10 is not slightly better than pes 09, it's much better. Unlike last year, I keep thinking about the match even after it. That's enough to prove that the game is really enjoyable and I enjoy only realistic games. So pes 10 is...

You mean local stores or stores like GAME one? If the latter one, then no there isn't; so games here are imported and sold at a much higher price over here :( That's why I order them from the net. Even though it takes 3-5 buisnesss days for them to arrive. But I am happy with game.:)

I will be getting it from GAME.UK. Since I live in Malta. Many sites don't deliver games here but this one does and they're really good. I never had any trouble with them. So I'll get it from GAME.UK. :)

^I think you're right. But I still hate to see it happening because it is not fair to pes fans.

"Graphically so superior to the ps3" You either have a bad ps3 TV woith no HDMI connection or you just love pc so much because PC have better graphics true, but not as better as you're saying. Though PC is more fun too because of patches. I agree about that.

You clearly don't know what you're saying. I mean play them both and the difference is night and day. And also how the hell do you know that pes 10 is gonna be worse than pes 5 when the game hasn't even been released.:rolleyes::no:

^Well I know, it was a really bad move from konami. They even admitted that the demo was an old build which confirmed what we thought. Anyway my point is that we cannot jusge games before they are out. Everyone that played the latest build, has said that the pes demo is nothing compared to it...

Fifa has improved yes and pes has gone downhill with pes 08 and 09, but 10 is really great so far from the WE demo especially. This year both games are good. ACCEPT THAT. If you say that there's a problem with people hating fifa on this forum then must I remind you that you're in a PES forum...

About the unstoppable cross. Yes it is an issue, but guess what, there is a way to get over it. Pes 2010 gives you more control on your defence so just hit L1 to select a defender that is covering a player and cover him carefully yourself and then press square and if you positioned him right...

Well said. TBH, ceysin is right, but I think he messed up the difficulties. Maybe. Because Regular in we 10 demo or pes demo isn't that easy. But anyway, maybe ceysin is right.

I would reccomend renting both for 1 week or more and then decide if you really have money for 1 game only but I suggest you get both. Both are good in some way. But for me, judging by the demos, pes is more enjoyable as it grows on you.

^But I am defending it because I like it. Pes 5 for me was better than 6. Pes 5 had better overall play and better balance netween attack and defence. pes 6 was slightly more attacking than 5 which can be a bad thing and a good thing aswell. But my point is that we 10 DEMO is so far somewhere...

Hey, I say things in favour of both fifa and pes. And I really liked the WE 10 demo. So am I a fanboy? In your mind only. Do not flame when you don't even know the truth. The we demo is really enjoyable, and it's good but you need to play it and play it more to be able to enjoy it. It grows on you.

^Cool. The speed of the game looks spot on. :)

This year we have 6 difficulties. Even on professional the game is hard. Good thing.

Ofcourse it's realistic when you barley hear the away team supporters compared to the home team. I liked it. It's realistic.