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maybe they should call it monkey football then at least we can stop arguing and agree that its not football

you dont need to adjust to a game... if the game is called football and you play/watch football in real life then you should play the game the same way you do it in real life... adjusting to a game means playing a different game. this is not football, this is a Japanese version of monkey...

it is a shame on konami to release such a crap after 10 years of waiting for a football game. When are we going to get a football game? AT THIS RATE NOT EVEN AT 2050

last time i played was 2 days ago, i ran out of money in master league online so i only have 10 players in the squad with no money. i kept quiting from frustration, i quit around 10 straight games... i will not play this crap anymore, it makes me angry vs cpu i am not complaining, its a cpu...

i agree about what you say regarding many things, but that said do you feel that PES 2012 is a game of football? defense is better? i think it is "different shit different release" but it is still a shit :rolleyes:

ok i will do that from now on... :roses:

please explain more what do you mean... im just being honest

still is wrong... nothing is fixed, still bugged and hacked like hell

you can even have a nap and have the ai win the game for you hahahaha

a few tweaks? the game needs coding from scratach, its so fucked up that you cannot tweak it... NEW CODE PLEASE.... THIS IS NOT FOOTBALL

loool

what a great achievement... shall we call you football master?:doh:

1- shooting = 1 leap backwards 2- defense = still same shit as before 3- passing = still same shit as before 4- referee = 10 leaps backwards 5- goal keeper = still same shit as before 6-free flowing football = aka engineered for freedom = still same shit as before 7- team mate control? =...

we've been hoping and thinking that FIFA and KONAMI will finally code a football game since 2000. DO YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT AFTER 11 YEARS OF FAILURES? WAKE UP :thewave:

"I was probably playing ISS before you found your thumbs!" >>> i highly doubt that the rest of your conversation doesn't make sense, i did not understand your point so yeah no comment... :w00t

cause Konami failed. the most frustrating thing for me is to lose in something i am very good at. i know alot about playing and coaching in football as well as strategies... i hate to lose games where i control possession yet i conceed stupid silly science fiction noob....... goals :gunfire...

i am still getting this in 2012, if you remember we had it in 2011 as well: attacker in front of the goal, ball in the air coming towards the attacker, defenders run away from the attacker and give him a clear view of the goal... like an invitation... gentlemen!!! :cussing:

are you like 13 or something? :w00t :shocking:

i already bought it from the first day of release digital format.. that is why i am frustrated, we had high hopes..