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I have a list of friends who i have added due to the fact that when we play each other we have no lag(within reason) everytime we play and we have played alot of different times... it's no worse than fifa... games like Cod and quake have more simple engines that were practically designed for...

come on, how many times have you thought you have shot someone first on COD only for them to kill you ???? What i'm trying to say is that its not the game its the connection speeds and hardware capabilities...PS3 and Xbox 360 is the first generation to have a real/full online conection...

so your not connecting very well... when i am connected to a solid green green connection the game plays the same as offline but for very slight controller lag (same with any game) i make it my rule not to play less than solid green green conections... it would be a good idea if you...

anyway back on topic, i hate the fact that they have made the passing more simple and stepped more toward an arcadish feel, games feel more fragmented and the sence of complete control has diminished... i would like to score a goal like robbie keanes goal against arsenal but my striker keeps...

Indeed, people should be able to post their opinions here with out some doosh bag saying it's uneducated every 5 secs... the thread was not made to be some kind of debate between peoples opinion of the game(as that would be just stupid) there are plenty of other places for that.. this thread...

LOL.... i guess it all just goes over your head, you just dont understand, i hope one day you will, for your sake..!!! maybe you can ask your mummy and daddy to help you with your future posts... oh please read my posts carefully as you dont seem to understand where i'm coming from...oh and...

Mr Darkstar, are you on LSD??? i love the fact he is now tryin to turn it around and he thinks that anyone who dosnt agree with his 'opinion' isnt educated.. now you even lie and contradict your own posts.... surely your just havin us on, nobody can be that stupid??? you have the nerve to...

it would be hard for you with fifa like it was with me, ive never really played fifa before 2009.. it starts off well, but tryin to play the game the same way as pes can get very frustrating..if you do decide to get it you should start from the bottom and re-set your hands...just try to play as...

you make me laugh...i think your a penis, hahahaha your so stupid man....

I'm not Einstien, but i think i have the answer...IF YOU LOVE PES AND THINK ITS PERFECT DONT READ A THREAD ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE HATE ABOUT THE GAME...!!!( i understand u being curious at first) to start unscrewing your head tryin to argue points of different opinions is futile..if people want...

you seem like another retard...

yup, sebass said that their goal was to make pes more of a game for everyone, thus making it a little too easy for top gamers and allowing 'lower' level players to be able to play better football..this is what fifa did for years and they reaped the financial rewards...(cant do both) this is...

Boo hoo what is this fascination of growing up you have..?? you'll get there 1 day....

Translation. Please dont say anything bad about my pes it will make me cry...oh and could you please just say good things on this thread as thats what its about, thanks... it would be nice if they could ban you guys that keep defending pes on a thread about why people hate the game...

did you install it...try downloading again..and thats patch 1.2 needed

and the reason they do it year to year is because they want more money...!! it must be a gaming gold mine for them..the fact is they rush through it each year to get into our pockets....its great marketing, for what seems to be a more blatant work in progress.. hey thats football, it can...

i think what the 2 rude boys should of said...(they went to summer heights high) i see where your coming from, this is ps3 and we expect more to a game in this generation.... Konami find it hard to get a bug free game out each year, to ask them to do even more work before they complete...

i hope they have time....they are entering the realms of gamplay that are very hard to pull off (bugs).. football must be one of the hardest games to make, it has many different speeds and dimensions.. after making 2009 seabass said he can now see the game he wants from his imagination in the...

?? they're both football games how different can they be...?? as for gameplay, in general PES is more exciting cus its faster and easyer to play great football, but both games offer great gameplay from slightly different angles...you can have boring and shit games with both, #it all depends...

And before i go a few words from 'somone' to say that not everyone thinks that fifa is that bad... When asked if he would ever consider using EA's engine for a future project, Takatsuka replied: "Well I would think about it really seriously because I still believe that EA's engine and...