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Read an excellent piece in PSM re: this title and it has somewhat restored my hope on this being a top notch addition to the series. Granted there is more action in this than previous but the segment on the stealth options and playing as a silent assassin sound beaucoup enjoyable.

As I posted earlier, I played this solidly for 8 hours last night with a friend so I cannot see what you re basing this on. The basic errors we saw with the game were the AI response and ability to execute actions a human player cannot. The AI is utterly ruthless, players can hold off multiple...

Whilst I recognize the speakers right to an opinion, I for one certainly do not see fact in the statement. I've just played a 2 player Master League on Professional level tonight, my friend and I are PES vets and we got to the end and felt mentally drained. The AI is inexorable in its absurdity...

Fuckin 'ell, what a picture that is!

There's no doubting the pinnacle was PES6, if PES2013 can capture the essence of that game, well FIFA will be out the reckoning for this year at least. I doubt it though. Since the next gen migration the game has suffered from dreadful coding and inadequate game engines/builds. Worse, the...

Oh dear lord ... welcome LJ.

I decided to reinvest in PES2012 and give it another go, for devils advocacy at the very least. I wanted to like PES2012 and amongst the shite there are some nice touches ... but the AI, It remains deplorable. I prefer entirely manual settings but was frankly quizzical as to why the AI of my...

I bloody hope so! I'll be using San Lorenzo if its true. Looking forward to battling Franco-Argentine Trezeguet.

To be fair, if you're playing PES with all the best players, where's the challenge? That's not being positive that's just loading the deck :lol:

Hmm, sounds odd. Can you provide more information though, what region is your PS3, UTSC/PAL etc and can you provide some screen prints/photos?

I agree, but I think it goes deeper than that. The AI doesn't exist yet, the difficulty on PES is response based. When it moves beyond that we'll see a different game completely. I love PES as a series, the gameplay is so much more rewarding than FIFA. However, recently I feel they've tried to...

I'm not going to go over old ground, I love football games and I've more than highlighted where the issues are. PES has always had quirks and I have long lived with them and learnt to ignore them. This goes beyond that. If they work on the areas I mentioned previously, well there is no reason...

It's far too easy on the lower levels. The disparity between the difficulties is a tad lazy as well.

Got to side with Mak on this one. I really didn't enjoy the game physics. It makes perfect sene to make a game as challenging as possible ... but there are some serious issues. Case in point, for the AI to be able to rob your players by shoving them in the back regardless of your players body...

These are outstanding, the Spain formation in particular with Fabregas as SS is top notch.

I like some of the new dribble animations but I wonder how overpowering these moves may become. On PES2011 the linked feints became the domain of one trick ponies online and with Arshavin in particular it was a bitch to defend against. On the plus side, as much as I loathed PES2012 I suspect...

I expect teams in the Copa Libertadores to be fully licensed unlike the Champions League, but with teams omitted for which licenses couldn't be acquired for. Brazilian and Argentine teams are subject to pricier licensing such is their brand value.

... And I said "don't get your hopes up". This is becoming a tedious conversation. I'm done.

I think it was obvious what I meant in this post. @Sickdl, ha, I've not been a kid for 20 years :lol: Baed on every version of PES released. Not a chance PES2013 will include a licensed Brazilian Championship simply because Konami couldn't afford it.

I think you're going to be very disappointed when the game is released young man. I think your expectations are going to be quite dashed.