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Couldn't agree anymore with you :) PES12 was the worse of the series. PES13 on Manual passing improves by a lot over PES12 but another main difference where Konami got it wrong is the default camera angle.they zoomed it out bit too much to accommodate players runs off the ball and few other...

Easy guys easy.Game won't be as bad as some of you make it out to be.Konami usually implements indepth elements and improve upon them via patching or sequels. I do expect another enjoyable experience from PES14 with noobs frustrating me by exploiting and spam paying weaker/unpolished elements of...

Yep Mandzukic

Wow I just watched E3s live feed right now and the game looks mind blowing! simply superb! i take back my words that i am disappointed.the game looks lot lot lot better than the 6 minute gameplay video.

Well i myself am disappointed a bit too....This does not feel like a new engine,it feels like some changes over PES13 but lets see...

Adam check out FIFAs graphics....Also I guess we will see a gameplay trailer of PES14@ E3.

Maybe but PES14 is on a new engine So I guess along with the change in graphics we will feel a difference in how the players moves around,passes,dribble,first touch on the ball etc.

Yeh I got it wrong this time.PES is not releasing for PS4,Xbox1 (officially confirmed)

i read all that in real time while adam was tweeting it.he posted all this right after posting the 3 screenshots which don't look next-gen.so i think he is trying to suggest that the reason why they aren''t showing off high-fi graphics is because the game it to be released for Ps3,360...

The screenshots are for this gen consoles...

PES14 teaser trailer revealed ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN1AxwGwG_M

I think that might not be true as the renders have seen so far have been rendered on this gen console(ps3,360). Also PS4,Xbox 1 are releasing late 2013/early 2014,which makes me doubt that they'd release a weaker(ofcourse overall graphics,lightening will be weaker) version in October.

Both I suppose.

The wait for the first gameplay trailer better be worth the while.

^You obviously don't know what you are missing.I don't even play offline anymore as it is too easy.

What do you mean FIFA can handle that part? i've heard FIFA online is highly unbalanced.

Yeh the multiplayer should be balanced....even the deeper elements of the game...that would be more than enough.

If the matches are to be conducted with manual passing activated count me in.