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Don't have a working webcam, sor... Ohhhh. ¬_¬

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Meh, I'm using it because I'm straight edge. Nothing to do with wrestling, on this occasion. ¬_¬

Bwhahaha, Sweeney.

You're missing my point. San Andreas was fun, and was meant to be. GTA IV took a "motion picture" turn which is why some people didn't get on with it. By "not trying to make IV better than SA", I just meant that they feel like completely different games, and it wasn't really supposed to...

Yeah, I've got Saints Row 2. Done about 3 missions on it though and never gone back. I'm by no means a trophy whore, but that's what it's lacking...the extra incentive to play it.

The thing people aren't getting is that GTA IV wasn't trying to be "better" than San Andreas. Sure, many people would've loved IV to have the fun aspects of San Andreas in it, but with the next gen game they've gone for realism and sacrificed quite a bit of the fun. Is GTA IV the best R*...

Oh, come on now, Tech Skill. You're making it sound like it's everyone against you. I've openly said many times that I agree with you on a lot of the things you say. The reason I've kept you out of threads is because you're pissing people off, most notably the admins of the forum...

Yeah, I don't buy into "wait for the demo's" because the demo for FIFA 09, for me, felt way inferior to the final product. And people here aren't stupid. They know for a fact that as soon as the demo's do come out, if either FIFA or PES isn't as good as people thought, the argument will change...

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I'm quoting this from way back, but just saw it. :D I think I like BarnDoor even more now. If this is 360-exclusive, have R* confirmed whether or not PS3 will be getting any?

Super Sub - More likely to make an impact when brought off the bench.

Jimmy Walker has joined Spurs, not Ian Walker.

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And all of a sudden their opinion counts again... :P

More stadiums would've been nice, but other stuff has been worked on this year that was far more important. Plus, much more weather has been added to the existing stadiums too, so it's not too bad.

Welcome. :)

A game review site has played the latest codes of FIFA and PES, and concluded that PES was the better game. DISCUSS~! ...I think that explains it slightly better.

Exactly. That's my reasoning for wanting him to stay out of this thread. Now, back to the discussion at hand. :)

I do sympathise with him to some extent, yes. I agree with a LOT of the things he says. What I don't agree with is the need to keep repeating the same thing over and over, especially at a place where people have joined because PES is the game they enjoy. Sure, some might enjoy both games, but...