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Holland are fully licensed this year.

And my Xavi goal. <img style="visibility:hidden;width:0px;height:0px;" border=0 width=0 height=0 src="http://counters.gigya.com/wildfire/IMP/CXNID=2000002.0NXC/bT*xJmx*PTEyNTM3MjUxNDI*MjgmcHQ9MTI1MzcyNTE*Mzg1MiZwPTk1MDcxJmQ9Jmc9MSZvPWU2ZTYyOTFmODQ3ZjQzMDg5MmFjYjZmMzIwNWI*Nzc*Jm9mPTA=.gif"...

Anyone else find the need for speed advert really annoying at the top of the page?

Its not just the response times which are rubbish, the whole gameplay mechanic is.

Most things are avaliable to silver members a week after they come out.

There's no commentary, there never is in PES demos.

I played a bit of the first one on Xbox ages ago, was pretty fun!

I won't haha, it's just that PES6 on the 360 was the start of the "next-gen" PES games.

Wow looks amazing can't wait, shame they had to save all the fun stuff for a DLC a year and a couple months after release.

I have a feeling the demo is the build from GDC

Seems like you're the one on drugs or just blind.

You always seem to defend the game even though it's gone downhill and you keep saying the final game will be improved, I hope I get proven wrong and it turns out to be good but I wouldn't bet on it.

Shaun are you employed by Konami?

It's Fifa for me this year (again)

It was pretty fun and you could make your own school football team!

PES6 was rubbish on the 360.

I thought sony were making a "next-gen" This Is Football game?

It's cleary not 360 degrees, if you play the Fifa 10 demo then play this then you'll see the difference, but if PES2010 does infact have proper 360 degree movements then it's been done poorly, which isn't very surprising from Konami.

Fifa has been better than PES since Fifa 07, there's no way anyone can deny that.

I prefer the game to PES2009, but when compared to Fifa 10, PES2010 just feels slow and clunky, the animations haven't been improved, only the lighting effects and the players faces have seemed to change but even saying that you can't see the players faces that well because of the lighting, or...