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The added time thing is gonna be a great addition, presumably they won't say stoppage time anymore, it'll carry on past 90mins?

I did a search on ebay a couple of days ago and found these, the pes4 one interested me til I saw the wait 14 days thing. I'll be getting it as soon as I can if not before...

Ps2 everytime, I hate xbox's.

You have to be able to play import games i.e. get it chipped/get a slide card etc

Bolton and charlton will be in it surely? and i hope to god that leeds and west ham aren't in it.

I think it's gonna be a really good implementation in the ML cos it'll create a kind of reality within a game because everyone can be good not just those who are good in real life at the moment when they develop the game. You should definitely be able to turn it off though.

Yeah, back on topic, I won it with holland but lost in the final with brazil, very embarassing. I also went out at the group stage with jamaica despite getting 6 points. I don't save it you see so if I lose then I start a new random cup. It's gonna take a lot of time and effort but it...

we8 won't be multi language, it's in japanese. pes4 isn't american it's european, usa have we series.

Nice one un-knicked, pretty informative post. With the "team-less players market pool" does that mean you can just release players and they'll go there? Is this just for ML or will it be in the editing section? That's be good cos it would mean that you can transfer players without swapping...

Go here - http://www.pes3stats.com/e_playnamteam.asp?Team+Name+PES3=Secret+Player

It's not hard to make players. Just find a pic of him on the internet and copy it as best you can...

I use edited PES united with Vieira as captain.

Yeah i know what alliteration means thanks, i misread it before. It's not a figure of speech it's actually a language device.

I beat Brazil today 2-0 with Iran!!! I was well pleased and i got to the final but lost 1-0 to argentina. Bastards! Bonzo - what alteration?

Will xbox get games like gran turismo 4? The main reason i think the xbox is inferior to ps2 (apart from the hideous design and god-awful controller) is that the ps2 has better games and that's what matters in the end.

This is exactly why pro evo is so much better than fifa because when you're playing a team better than yourself it really is difficult to score at all let alone score a good goal. I scored a cracker from outside the box once as china v brazil on 5* and i was well chuffed! The gameplay changes...

I've found plenty of other games but I keep getting drawn back to pes3. I've bought ssx3, manhunt and lma2004 since i got pes3 but i can't seem to take it out of my ps2!

I doubt many people will be buying anything to play it on, most people on here already have a ps2, xbox or at least a pc. ps2 pisses all over xbox by the way

No-one knows the actual line-up of teams yet apart from the licensed leagues. We don't even know what EPL teams will be included let alone american teams.

I've just noticed the amount of views of this thread - over 21,000. Had we started the points thing when this thread was made? If so dannyboy must be raking it in!