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Remember how bad PES3 was for unlicensed names? It was the last one where the commentators spoke them. I'm not surprised either, Peter Brackley having to record names as absurd as "Di Coo".

What can I say. I'm a bastard. The commentator's clear inability to Say "Van Bronckhurst" is beaucoup amusing.

He has obviously researched my posting style ... Wow. This looks ultra shite. m_jzUjo3eT8

I'll switch to -2 speed and close/medium camera, I find the games a little more bearable that way. That said on ML PES2011 I used +2 speed and - paradoxically - found it easier to compete with the top player AI

As someone who regularly used wingbacks on PES2011 thats just not true. There is a difference and everything is worth complaining about in one sense or another. Also it makes no monetary or space difference having wingbacks in the game. It may seem a pointless conversation but generally...

Is the roster update confirmed though? I can't remember a roster update so soon after a release and usually they're not entirely thorough either. I'm more intrigued to see if they've fixed the bug that screwed up everyone's option files with official patches.

Similar systems to which I use although I never push my back line too high (fnar fnar) as I rarely have centre-backs with pace to cover the acres of space behind them. I'm slightly disappointed they removed the wingback role, outdated or not it was still a unique and nice touch by Konami but...

Aye, this I like the sound of. Anyone got any teams to share then?

Someone please tell me how to execute a clipped/dinked lob. I always execute these by mistake and I can't get the timing right when I try for love nor money *argh!*

Welcome ... may the spam be with you :D

I'm going to buy the game *but* if there are cheating shits already with insane amounts of money and wonder teams it does rather take the 'sheen' off my excitement.

Against 4-3-3 you'll get raped using that. I just change my full-backs to side midfielders by my centre backs and use two defensive midfielders to cover the spaces. Job's a good 'un.

Indeedy, I'll be knocking down the gamespeed and increasing the match time to 15 minutes from 10, it'll slow the game down and give more time to consider my approach.

Aye, this looks top notch. I think my favourite inclusion is that of Apoel Nicosia who I want to use in the ML so a thumbs up to you sirs! :)

Course they are if we're picking teams. I'm not fussed on random select. By the way, I've actually used HJK Helsinki before. I lost 5-1 when my mate randomly got the UKRAINE! :laugh: Was a great match, It was 2-1 right up until the 70th minute and then my team ran out of steam.

As a UK player imagine how I feel knowing when I get on MLO the rest Europe will already have the best players in their sides racking up the prices of those players as well. I'll literally have to play 24/7 just to build a side.

I reckon you should go for a neutral team Ali as I dare bet Bolton are better than both Boca and River on PES2011.

I'm happy to pick River Plate and stick with them. It'll certainly be a challenge.

Two leagues is doable. I'll be River Plate, I'm sure they are in the America section still.

Amateur, its up to you and the others. I can't be arsed.