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this is biased the animations arent just good enough for a next-gen game and for a ps3 and it has improved but even pes 3 from 8 yrs ago has better animations and you cannot pass around properly and all teams play like barcelona. and how come people like mario gomez skilling up my defenders with...

wonder why everyone is craving for speed merchant's

if you already have the best players and your ideal side whats the point of playing as it aint challenging as you win everything

so things like training improves your players - is there any other factors which could make player's stats raise higher?

yh but xavi hardly runs top speed turning at right angles but lavessi is always turning at right angles but jis close control isnt better than xavi so it all goes down to agility or personality (individuality) if they should be a speed merchant

try changing the game speed to -1 or -2 as it feels much more real and you can think before you do something

it takes weeks to get an average side unless you play pes 24/7 nut the idea of that bores me

are the keepers too good and superhuman as it'll be hard to score and do crapper keepers make impossible saves

how, i don't see the difference starting with default line up or fc copenhagen

so if theres no dynamic development you cannot improve players due to performances and instead its standard where its fixed regardless of performances. forget ML if that's the case and i'm off too BAL

yh what types of growth development is there like dynamic

i know but in mlo the higher the rating the more money. its mainly useful in online

they don'y dribble better, its not dribbling its agility. some players can turn so quick but don't have good dribbling. villa is always turning like that but he is agile not that he is a good dribbler. if you see benayoun or xavi play they don't make high speed turns

you can finally feel the moving flow on passes which lackes on the next-gen games and is more realistic than pes 2011.

siazoil is good too, a lb rating 77 and a free agent

Armand - psg rating 85 at sb Sabri - galatasaray rating 85 at sb Zuniga - Napoli rating 84 at sb Fanni - OM rating 84 at sb Ney Santos - verfolcao (Vitória Setúbal) rating 82 at sb Comotto - cesena 82 at sb Santon Hengbart - AJ AUXERRE 82 at SB JOAO Perreira - sporting 82 at sb Maxi...

realky that is actually great as it saves money

nearly every player is better in a different position - i experimented at pesdb.net . nasri is 85 on smf, di maria 83 smf, cr7 99 smf, menez 83 smf, di natale 86 smf etc.

yh pesdb.net is very helpful if you are looking at specific stats and cards

youcheck your gp on the top right corner of extra content or it'll say before you purchase anything