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You see, I just don't get you guys, if someone disagrees with you and explains why, you laugh at him regardless.... if it's because he prefers FIFA, you laugh at him; if it's because of movement within space, you laugh at him.... basically, you can only hear what you want to hear, which makes...

Should I feel bad for myself?

I had not even finished reading the post that you wrote, and I already knew the post was filled with specific and subjective observations which I cannot really judge since I have not played the video game. The bottom line is, you are glossing over fundamental deficiencies in order to support...

Yet another condescending reply from you, it's clear who you sympathize with; oh, and no, I never said that A/X does not exist, what I actually said is that A/X determines, not only when you tackle, but also how you tackle..... there's an obvious lack of consistency to such a system. The flaw...

I never said I understood the defensive side of the game, that's you putting words in my mouth, which I also find offensive and condescending. What I actually said, was that I merely agreed with the person who said that a video game should offer an actual button to determine when you tackle, the...

If you actually count the number of tackles, you may find that I'm not trying to come from anywhere, and you might perhaps find that it is bullshit for as long as you cannot provide solid facts or numbers. Furthermore, John Terry is one player, in PES you control ten players, therefore the...

I expressed the obvious point the wrong way; yes, obviously, you should compare PES with real football.... but you should do it the correct way, with comparisons that actually make sense. Example: you cannot say that John Terry tackles only twice (yes, two times) in 90 minutes of play (which is...

You are a moron, go fuck yourself. Yet another cunt. He doesn't understand you because you're not talking about how awesome PES12 is; though in reality, anyone who understands English must understand your points, there's nothing confusing about what you're saying.

To me Craney91 is someone who takes video games too seriously, I am talking about a video game, there's absolutely no need for any human being to take offense about anything that I say about PES12. I'm not saying that PES12 is complete rubbish and I'm not saying that I will not try it out, in...

Now why should "realistic" play like FIFA? Is FIFA "realistic"? Far from it. You have no idea about what "realistic" actually means, yet you are already dismissing it. And if it isn't obvious enough for you, I never mentioned "FIFA" once, the fact that you identify "FIFA" with "REALISTIC" tells...

I'm sorry, but could you please explain what the fuck is your point?? You know how much minutes of play PES offers you? 10 minutes for most people. You know how many goals I can score in just 10 minutes of play? Easily four or five goals, if I feel like it. You know how many real teams can...

Movement within the space is not possible in PES12; you know how I know? Because unlike you I actually understand what movement within the space actually is. PES12 offers little gimmicks, movement within space is not a gimmick; here is the fact, direct the left analog stick without the...

That's a good point, though I fail to see why the right analog stick should be necessary, surely, directing the left analog stick + tapping the L1 button, should suffice?? Furthermore, concerning off the ball movement, at least PES12 offers the freedom to manually control the off the ball...

I have not played either demo of PES12, but I can tell you that I know what to expect even though I have not played the game; I do not necessarily agree with you 100%, but I agree with the general statement. I'm talking of course, about why the fuck is movement within space still impossible...

I think it would be a massive improvement to add to the current off the ball system, if it was possible to determine the direction in which the player who passed the ball will run after passing the ball; sounds complicated, but it could be done rather easily. My proposition is simple and would...

That's not the best comparison, I mean, hair grows back, therefore shaving companies do not really need to improve their product so that people continue buying their products. I think that PES and FIFA are so outdated that neither Konami nor EA Sports need to worry about doing too much...

Haven't played either one, and considering the game will be released in about 10 days or so, I'll probably skip the demos. Though having watched some videos, my impression is that close control seems to be too good for all the players, at least in PES11 you could notice a considerable...

You hated the 1st demo.... Why are you positive about the 2nd demo? Is it the pace more than anything else?

Yeah but the older one was also flawed, what if you didn't want to push the ball a little bit further? This is where PES and FIFA need to innovate, use the fucking L1 button, L1 button for passing and shooting, L1 button for pushing the ball a little further in order to pass or shot, problem...