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Ive just said this but player condition should be taken into acount in the demo.

After hating pes 2009s guts i absolutly love it and i really get involved in matches. Also remember that in the demo all the players are in GOOD condition. Just think how good it will be to have players like messi in EXELLENT condition.

The names on their shirts were players from Pes United. I wasnt trying to sandbag you i was jus putting the statement out there to clear it up.

That team was proven to be PES United

ive got a pes tattoo on my forhead

Oh yes because i said "You shouldnt buy Fifa". I wasnt just saying why for the sake of it, i was actually asking why.

Why buy Fifa? Why do you not want to play free flowing football with realistic faces, exiting gameplay, weather effects, a ball that flies through the air rather than a ball that plays in slow mo. Fifa is so unrealistic that i cant take anyone who loves it seriously. Its not opionon its just...

What is actually better in fifa

How can you be impressed by the Fifa demo?

i rekon it'l be slightly behind pes 6 for me. Gameplay is quality when picking out passes

It really hasnt in gameplay. Its a little more open and random but no more. 250 improvements? Yh, and im steven gerrard.

I was exactly like you. Try to only sprint when your in clear open space. You need to learn to primarily use slow dribble and quick movement to allow time for players to make noticable runs off you and also it alows you with th quick movement to loose the opposing player. In and around the box...

This game relys heavily on you not sprinting too much

i dont even know. Online was the best part of the game cos playing people online was fun but it still was rubbish

2008 was only good online. nough said

you missunderstood me. My main point was that cos they released the demo 2 weeks befor release it means that they cant improve what we want improving. They have finnished making the final game befor the demo was released so that means anything we want that we dont like from the demo cant be...

this demo though is much better than the leipzig build

Whistles, nets, refs, relativly unchanged ML, the list is endless with little things that are so easy to sort out it beggers belief and if he nailed all these little simple things then the whole game would take off and be so much better.

Som1 agrees that the whistle is shite. Its so annoying! It sounds like its broken. I mean what fuking game on this planet we call Earth did they watch a football match that used a whistle that sounded like that!!!!! No whistle sounds anything like that. They couldnt even get a proper whistle or...

I was getting frustrated with the shitty gameplay but i changed to a wide 4-4-2 and the game opend up and i actually want to play the demo now. When your playing 10min matches in ML etc and online 2v2 this game will kick fucking ass. Its hard to give a shit about the matches in the demo but...