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^Yeah. It's better if they focus on animations and overall play rather than camera tilting.

Well, I know pes 09 can be frustrating but you are truly underrating the game. But anyway, if you won't buy fifa and pro, then no football game for you because there's not much of a choice to choose from.

I don't play pes all the time you know.;) I play many other games like call of duty, fifa 09, assassins creed and especially GTA IV. :happy:

^You need to retire. But it's not a good idea at such a young age. Try to win some national awards first ;) I skip matches too, but I wait until my player is really tired and he can't make a half. Then I skip that match. My player so far is 20 yrs old and I have really good abilities unlike...

^Thanks. BTW I play as a RMF with Liverpool

^Well, yeah. I am also concerned about hair movement. That's what makes it pop out in graphics and realism.

What do you mean excactly by flashes? I also have the ps3 version with HDMI output.

I made it to the starting team with Liverpool. Scored 2 goals and then in the next game, I scored 4 goals meaning my first hattrick.

^Is it that important? I find the cameras in pes to be great.

I agree about the hair. It's looking awesome in pes 2010 so far with messi as the example. Personally I think that the whole body and face are better not just the hair. But the hair looks MOST improved.

If you're referring to me: I was season 1 with Atalanta season 2 with Inter season 3 with Lyon season 4 with Liverpool (I have just started)

I had 2 BALs and I got called up in season 2.

^You get the call up in the 2nd season.:)

^The other player gourcouff (I am not sure how to spell it) wasn't with the best midfielders. I was the best attacker with 7.48. But I was skipping the last game of the season (so that negotiations will vary). But then I played the mast match got an 8.0 and then I got those awards. Weired isn't...

IT LOOKS BETTER THAN THE CURRENT MESSI. At least, it's more realistic. The skin and lighting is better for sure.

I don't think so.

Finished the 3rd season with Lyon. I won French league top scorer, top assist french D1 cup top scorer, top assist and MVP Uefa CL top scorer, top assist and MVP I have an average rating of 7.48 this season and scored 75 goals and 25 assists. For some strange, stupid reason the PLAYER OF...

With all the critics, I still find pes 09 good. but if what they said about pes 2010 is true, then it's gonne be awesome. I hope it's true.

Did you restart your console? Or did you press install or did it automatically install?

^Ah ok then. BTW I have both X360 and ps3 and the rating system is the same.