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Bud I hear your plight, I've been there and trust me - there are many facets of the game that still drive me doolally. There's nothing wrong with expressing your opinion and defending them in these forums but it can a tough crowd to please. PESgaming is full of alot of enthuasiastic PES...

I've never censored anyone on PESgaming or told them what opinion to have, well not that the brain can recall but I do know I've encouraged respecting the opinions of others - and obviously the engaging of banter. Its all getting a bit odd, I feel like I've stumbled into a conversation half...

I played a D2 team last night - I'm D5 - and he was seriously shite. He had Forlan, Diego Milito, Nesta, Puyol, Lampard and Sneijder and he only managed to beat me 1-0 in a 20min game. He was a total 4-3-3 wing whore, give the ball to a winger and run run run ... god its dull to play against. No...

I prefer -2 but then with the lag taken into consideration 0 is pretty fair game speed. If you're not constantly hitting the sprint button you can enjoy a realistic passing game that isn't akin to a benny hill sketch (one for the older readers methinks!)

Mate, I think you have spectacularly misunderstood what I said. I was merely attempting - and failing - to defuse the situation.

Impressive, what level were you playing on? Hats off it was Top Player.

I couldn't find anything when I googled it and it let me login with no problems whatsoever. Also, I didn't think the league updates happened until midnight?

I wouldn't normally swear but don't play stylo82, he's a cheating shit. Fucker lagged me something mental, he had a team of default players who were running around like Tevez on speed. I've never experienced anything like it, there was a split second delay on everything I did! I pressed circle...

I'm a PS3 user and having just logged in to MLO I've noticed the first competition on MLO isn't until 10:25pm. I'm a D5 player and the first one for that is not until 10:45pm! What in the name of sanity?! I've googled 'PES2011 maintenance' but drawn a blank, it seems unlikely any is being...

Whoa easy there chief, I was trying to find a way to stop the argument, it was the only one I could think of. You two aren't ever going to see eye to eye in this forum so if you won't play each other than theres no point arguing. Its just going to go round and round ad infinitum.

Guys guys guys! I thought we were going to settle this with PS3 controllers in our hands? Its turning into something of a protracted argument and its clear its not going to get sorted in these forums.

I've had this and the problem is releasing the sprint button when you're about to take a shot. If you time this wrong it does a daft dinky lob. Incidentally, I've accidentally scored one of those before!

You will do but you need to get your timings spot on, give it 'time' ;)

The worst cheating is where people deliberately score 3 own goals when they are losing and the game is abandoned. Does my bloody head in :realmad:

You've got nothing to worry about mate, if you got the points then it could be case of the guy you were playing having issues with his internet connection.

Right, the thread is ready and open for business http://www.pesgaming.com/showthread.php?p=1685771#post1685771

This actually started as a conversation in another thread but its own thread could be a good way to settle (or maybe re-ignite) disagreements. As far as I can tell there isn't another thread quite like this so here are the basics. 1. You want to settle a PES argument the old fashioned way...

Good point about us going off topic, should I start up a new thread? Something like, "The PES2011 Open Invitational?"

I'm not questioning your argument my friend there are points I agree with but I think we have to try and find a to move forward - even if we all don't agree with each other. Football777, just added you, hopefully will be on PES in an hour or so. If not, will defo be on tomorrow afternoon.

I'll give you a game sometime if you give me your gamer tag? No Barca or Real Madrid though, a real test of skill is to play with a random team ... although I always end up as Saudi Arabia!