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At the risk of being told to F**k off(!) lets just chill ... I think we could be onto a winner here, rather than just argue about PES2010 or PES2011, we should have a playoff to put the argument to bed. Just need to sort out who's on PS3 and who's on XBOX360.

Amateur v Football777, lets set some game rules, what do you reckon? Make it an event! :) How about a best of 3 games, 10 minute halves? No extra time or penalty shoot-outs though. Points awarded as standard, 3 for a win, 1 for a draw and a big fat ZERO for a loss. Also, if your on the...

No mate, can you really see Sony and Microsoft pairing networks? No.

Lets all agree to disagree and stick to just taking the piss out of me instead, I love a good slating! I know I'm now in love with MLO but seriously I'd recommend it to anyone still playing ML offline and getting miffed with it. There are some response issues with shite players (which causes...

Unpredictability, thats what often levels the playing field with lesser players. Some, and I stress some, good players are good on the back of being a one trick pony and expecting their opponents to play the same way. Against lesser players its often they don't know what they are going to do...

What a goal, I've heard people say it was a fluke touch but not a chance. Easily one of the best goals in Premier League history in terms of technique. Oh and hello and welcome to the new-newbie! :)

That's a point, what is the score with the Arshavin wing nuts? Give the ball to Arshavin and run like a Gazelle over and over and OVER again. Its boring. I had some Div2 player do the exact same thing against me ... the tart. He beat me 1-0 with a header from a free-kick, after I'd fouled...

The Through balls are just too good. I find playing a back 3 is more effective than a back 4. I still get hit by through balls down the wings but I'm more solid through the middle.

Yeah that is driving me up the wall on MLO, sometimes my CB's run AWAY from the ball! I conceded a really soft goal against some kid the other night, my keeper parried the ball and I couldn't control the nearest defender to clear it - he scored such an easy tap in because of it.

My guess, Konami's vision of football and then how to make it challenging is not to be true to the realism of football. I won't play offline matches on this version as Pro is too easy and Top Player too littered with anomalies.

As a PS3 user I'll just have to settle for Konami sorting this for PES2012 so I can enjoy offline Master League again. Until then, MLO all the way.

C'mon bud, go easy on the newbies :) I actually agree with you about PES2011 now, I've learnt to play it now - and I mean really learnt to play it. I've got to eat humble pie and admit I got it wrong about PES2011. Sure there are glitches and annoying bugs but differing dribbling skills...

Apparently you get points now though for disconnections. A friend was playing earlier and his points went up by 12 after the guy quit, he was a D2 player and my mate is D4.

Is this for the PC version?

I've resorted to using a highline and playing 3-6-1, It goes almost against all my footballing pathos but I don't seem to have much choice. What is it with people only playing bloody 4-3-3 and with such high defensive lines? Its so boring playing someone who just wants to run down the wing. Half...

I've not exactly sung PES praises on here in the past but it is a little odd you peddling FIFA's wares on a PES site. Its like me selling Washing Machines at a Lingerie shop - out of place.

You're perfectly entitled to your opinion, I wouldn't censure a follow PESgaming member. I do think you are in a fortunate position in being very good at the game, I think you should get on MLO as it sounds like you would do very well.

Own goals and abandoning matches on PES2012 should have harsh penalties, the likes we clearly won't see on PES2011, I think -25 points would weed out the undesirables. Granted if you lose genuinely lose your internet connection you are going to pay a heavy and unfair price - but the minority...

Two annoyances to report; 1. The bloody cursor glitch! I played someone who had an easy tap in thanks to me not being able to select a defender. That aside he deserved to win but it still managed to grind my gears. 2. Cheating! I was 2-0 up in the D5 cup well deserved and hard fought and...

Several factors explain why you are winning the premier league the obvious being you are very good at the game and probably have a reasonable side. If you're an intermediate player with an average team you can really see the black and white scripting that exists on PES2011. I won't play...