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1 or 2 of your points i agree with but some are just wrong lol get rid of master league?? you mad thats what made pro awesome.....i would like to see the CL chaps dooing the commo..... the shirts would be hard cus they would cost money...

id say no to argintine leage and bring in the SPL that would be cool...... ive always said this the only thing that i feel would make the ML better would be the opertunity to levae a club and manage another one... i would like to have my created player in italy then england plus i think i would...

i think that on graphics fifa will be slightly better because of lighting and other aspects.... but like us all say gameplay is what matters....i would say that fifa has been coming close but pes is still leading the way.

lol same mate

your a lil high strung eh "MATE" i was a bit drunk when i wrote that so yer i guess i jumped to conclusion...that said it pisses me off when people say i love pes and pes fan etc then go on to say how konami has let us down etc etc... i just say voice your opinion ofcourse but you cant change...

your forget it is all about liscence... other than fifa you have FM(footy manager) which also fights for a liscensce.... but you answer me would you get excited if the K league or columbian league was in pes 09? i want the good leagues like spanish, italian, holland, portugese top, german...

how the hell can you guys say fifa 09 over pes what exactly proves that fifa is better..... the only things id say fifa is better than pes is the graphics and thats very slim because some aspects are very weak with fifa...... so please tell me why you think fifa is better then i will tell you...

your full of shit.. if you were a fan youd like PES im a liverpool fan and i kno we aint won the league in 24 years but i will not budge on the fact were the most successfull english team in history and the best current..... you like fifa now because you feel different about it i kno and admit...

I think its a case of they give you an editor and you can do what you want they (konami) take no responsibility of what we the fans do.....remember in pes5 we could make what ever we wanted I for one made the lpool logo and kits called the satium anfield etc so i kno thats illegal because konami...

the emirates is shit just cus its big... theres no atmosphere, i felt cold the times ive been there..... there more european stadims that have a bigger presence over arsenal stdia... i think if konami have champs league mode it would be rubbish i would love it in master league mode..... i...

its just nets i mean how many time you scored and actually noticed the nets..... i think the main gameplay is the conern.....the middle, defence, attack is the concern. the nets are fine in 2008.

umm some good points i guess..the one you made about diff opinions and wanting more i think thats a case for all game each year the companies should strive to make improvments or else people will get bored and move on...cus dont forget that this is a business, by us buying the video games were...

yer agreed i think that its also because of the position of the analog stick on the controller for the xbox wich makes it easy to use....i have pes on ps3 and i can only use the analog but its a bit anoying its far away but i get used to it..... the analog stick i feel has alot more response.

i think the only reason that a pc is better than the games consoles is because they can be heavily modded and alot more can be added but on the level of gameplay and graphics i am yet to see a pc game that is for better than console versions

yer that is true mate and not disagreeing with you but i dont know how they will intergrate it into the game...

yer mate it would dent but i dont think make it pointless.. youll always have fifa fanboys, and maybe it will feel different on both games..... but because fifa ofc has the fifa liscense then all bodies involved are fifa's

yer i agree i thought it was ok as in it never really bothered me i did try trick and was quite successful but if i played it now then i could probs notice some changes lol... but i think the current graphics are sweet with player likeness is unreal, the clear liscensed kits are good maybe...

I dont agree with some people here... yes konami has the money but they will always lose out because take a look at FIFA the clue is in the name F I F A - their overall name is the world body for football that is a major benifit when getting the liscense. konami will always be reduced to...

yer i agree with you shaun i dont really kno how they will use it to if it is in pes09 will it be part of the master league or a seperate part like when you choose the cup in the menu....im a lil cofused what this will offer us....does that mean then that all the participents will be liscensed...

yes i agree altho i wouldnt say pes 6 was like pes 4/5 i used to love number 5 where i would get real satisfaction from making a good pass wich may or may not lead to a goal, the occasional long shot from gerrard if i could'nt break down the defence... however i agree that EA have made the...