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Same happpens to me. The signing is sometimes impossible. I'm in 2013 (top player) and have won the legue (2012) cup and champions league.

Nice team. Van der Vaart is awesome in the game. His passes are pretty good so a DMF is a great choice of position to play him in.

^Italian players are underrated while English players are overrated (not all of them). I agree with what you're saying but luck plays the biggest part unlike pes 5.

Cesc Fabregas. His passing needs to be much better. Also some Italy u21 players like Guiseppe Rossi, Giovinco and Abate are way underrated, especially Giovinco.

^Well yes that's true but in the end it depends on the team you're playing with and the team you're playing against. It's useless playing with a lower level team because you'll loose as your shots will be weak and since pace is such important in pes 2008 you'll loose every part of the game. It's...

I meant that pes5 had the balance between attack and defense right, but it also had a problem with the attack, but if you're good then you'll score. This is not the case with pes 6 and 2008. They are based mostly on attacks and their defense is not good. I prefer the pes 5 style of game.

I used to play on a normal tv (sdtv) and I had some slowdown problems but not as much as some people say. Now I'm playing on an HDtv (the game is still without patches) and the slowdowns and lags decreased.

That's what I wanted to know. Thanks

^Yeah I felt the same way. I think pes 5 showed the player's skill instead of luck and also pes 5 had the best defnding but the attacking was a bit poor.

Barcelona.

They need to fix the game speed but the most irritating part is the stamina. I hate the stamina system for the 360/ps3/pc versions of 2008. I also want the old edit mode back. At least we can play with all teams almost licensed. Also some gameplay issues like passing and especially the bad...

Anyone know if Totti as a newcomer will be good? At least have you seen his abilities?

Louis Saha is good. I never tried Gomiz. Have you tried Benzema? the frenchman.

Maybe that shot looked like last year's because it was taken from a very big distance. The further away the less difference you'll see.

The defenders are hard to control. I'm not sure if there's any option but all I do is change to the player that is closer to the ball and that is almost in front of the cpu player with the ball and tackle him with the cross button. If done right your player will perfect tackle the cpu player...

I hope those screens are real. I miss the ps2 editing.

^It looks like it. I'm happy that pes 2009 is gonna be realeased.

There's a thread called 13 hi res pic of pes 2009. There are some new pictures.

Fully agreed. The gameplay is what matters in the end.

The lighting looks much improved. I hope it's there in the real game.