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This is pure poetry.

Lee i'm struggling a lot on headers too. And even if i win, the ball goes straight to the opponent. So i started using other buttons than x button. Now i use O and square to head the ball further away, and also i begin to position my player using R2 button much earlier. Just when they execute a...

^ In ML i don't think you can coxy. It's indeed funny how shite the ML schedule is. I have seen internationals ONE DAY before a league match. SO unrealistic.

Can't we just post these things in the negativity thread? :)

^ As you mention above i had to quit ML too because i could't hire new staff. This got frustrating, and i definetely think it's realistic that a club gets more money and therefore is able to hire some decent coaches/scouts etc :)

^ I bet micho is doubting if we understand his message in here. Totally understandable since he has only posted 823943923457839457238945785 negative posts about pes so far :)

Interesting reading there mate. I have definetely noticed the difference you mention above - my team perform better as time goes by and they're teamwork abilities raise. It's really a delight to finally see my patience being rewarded after using 19,20,21 year old players for 3 seasons now...

De nada luisao. Hopefully they still have great potential after the patch you used.

Yeah after playing the second demo i actually thought i was going to play pes 2012 right until 2013 gets released, and not only play it for 3-4 months as previous versions :) But as you mention the patches did something horrible to the game.

^ Haha, good one Luisao :)

Maybe go to the edit section in here? There used to be a thread where people could ask these questions. Not sure if it's still there though.

Which transfer frequency do you play with Macheda? I never ever get any offers not even when i put decent players on loan/transfer list. I see there are some clubs negotiating, but i never receive the bid! SO frustrating. Think i have it on normal.

Okay. Was just wondering, since i don't use it either. I thought it would probably be to easy signing the desired players, and i've already build up a great team, hiring a new scout each season. I actually hired a level 5 scout after the first season, just to get some decent players.

^ Yes it can be strange at times. However i've taken luisaos advice: when cpu is making through balls just do nothing, and your defender will know how to position himself. It's bad that we can't do it ourselves, but it actually works if i don't press anything and let the defender intercept the...

Rasmus Elm. Sign him as early as possible. He plays for AZ in the beginning of the game. I signed him after 3 seasons trying with different scouts. Then finally he put negotiation on hold and i landed him for free. He's just great in central midfield. He intercepts the ball, plays great through...

Luisao, i noticed further above that you need a good defender. Try do a search for Rojo (argentina) He plays cb and lb - he is 187 tall and he actually develops decent passing stats as well, which i see as an important thing for even a cb. Also Zanka is a young cb from fc copenhagen, who has...

^ Abu is definetely right about the keepers. Even in the latest patch they're absolutely horrible - at both ends of the pitch to be honest. It's a big fat joke. I still see my keeper run kinda sideways when rushing out (triangle button) which was a huge bug in pes 2009 i remember.

Yeah it gets boring after a month playing it because it's so damn easy. I can already feel that i will struggle for a long time with 2012 which is a great thing.

Holy shite MICHO, relax please. I think everyone in here get your message now :)

Haevn't noticed this at all - neither in previous pes versions