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And its something we will never get

I agree, if the cursor is fixed, and done to be like FIFA where you use the Right analog stick for totally manual cursor change, I would buy a $100 bucks for PES 2012

I hadnt played PES or Winning Eleven thoroughly since PSOne, played a little on PS2, been on FIFA 07, 08, 10, and 11 PES11 is better than FIFA in terms of realism, but it has too many bugs The game in my opinion is too focused on the attacking aspects that it forgets football also involves...

Thank you very much I thought I was the only one The game is so focused on attacking that other aspects suffer terribly

I had bought FIFA 10 and FIFA 11 , last played PES in a PSOne console, but I am glad I picked up PES 2011, as others have said, its not at all perfect, especially the defending aspect, but it feels like real football, compared to FIFA in which the ball feels like a heavy log of wood looks arent...

In my opinion, PES 2011 focused too much on the attacking aspects of the game, although its not perfect, I would give it a solid 8 outta 10 but the defending aspect I would give a negative 50 out of 10, its that bad

Yeah that happens a lot players can literally walk the ball into the net The standing tackle is useless, it doesn't work 90% of the time

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I dont give a crap about the animations I just want to be able to defend players just stand silly even if I press second player press Its useless There is no need for animations if its not possible to control players for pete sake:realmad:

I tried reducing button threshold on my PC that didn't seem to help any suggestions, The power for shooting and crossing I end up overpowering my shoot or cross or underpowering it

Coming from FIFA with the 100% passing assistance feature It is used a lot On that note, how do you guys cope with the lousy player switching? I switched to semi-assisted and not a lot of improvement I guess I am just spoilt by the awesome player switching in FIFA lol

First Experience with PES on a third gen sys I got PES2011 for PC I was blown away, having played FIFA 10 and FIFA11(Both are gathering dusts) The only bug with the game is the cursor change If that is fixed, then I would give the gave a 10/10 some other minor issues but come on the ball can...