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did't say nothing on licences which is a bitch....isnt it amazing how such little information gets us buzzin :)

Agreed...Gears is different gravy and i have no issues with how PG4 looks...i mean i believe the vast majority of people will say Gran Tourismo has it in its pocket....but racing games (unless they are super fast and unrealistic e.g Wipeout) are not my cup of tea. besides it winds the fuck out...

Right....first of all HDMI not being backwards compatable has nothing to do with the ps3 looking poor on normal tv because no one would run a ps3 through a HDMI cable to a normal TV if it didnt have a HDMI port. if this were true Xbox surely would not relese the Xbox 360 Elite with a HDMI port...

Konami... Check it out... http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=74538 With any luck the next Firmware Update will fix the offline problems and make online available.....hope so seeing as it is the Only Ps2 game i intend to play on my ps3.

I can see your point pal. it does seem like a case of neglegence on Konami's part or maybe even damaging loyalty to Sony who knows. i suppose this is the time when people choose what they value most in their football game. if u still value gameplay over editing etc then im sure the 360 version...

My word Lol has everyone gone insane.....how many times have we had this discussion with our fifa fan mates (along these lines): 'Fifa is good for licences etc....but for pure gameplay its pro evo everyday of the week.' That was (for me at least) our arguement for playing pro as opposed to...