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whoa that sounds very bad from what you're saying..

well, before that I'd still try putting on manual training setting and adding training points to the card. I'm sure that works.

yes to me it also sounds like you forgot to put training points into training the card etc?

I ended that season second in the end. Now third season being close to ending now and heres the situation. Got a VERY good January transfer window! GKs: G.Woods, Pouplin, Victor, Ivarov. Woods took his place back as 1st goalie and has been doing well, he's a "guaranteed save" goalie, often...

funny how different the reviews are, other saying it's about attacking football this year. Other saying that it's about playing realistic 0-1 games.

Haha, this is by far the most awesome thing in pes for ages :D No real pro plays with anything else but with Minanda & CO.

This doesn't sound good, anyone can verify this?

From PES2011 Master League: - Bring back the graphs to show what the player stats were when he joined the team and current stats. - Give possibility to check finances on players brought in and players sold. Often I'd like to see how much profit I made by buying cheap and selling then. - Scout...

..the game sounds absolutely amazing. Hopefully they don't mess it to full release. I'm going to try the game then! :)

2 Players Vs AI do the controls work fine? Now as there's a new ability to control second player and make them do runs etc.. Has none tried yet playing with 2 human on 1 team vs AI? I'm most likely going to play PES2012 mostly like this and would like to hear some opinions on how do these...

word Ali, about the ML growth. That's what's a big factor in Konami stats. And ppl should stop staring the "Overall rating". What's more important is the key stats of the player and do they reflect reality.

I'm gonna be the annoying dude asking the same question in every topic, but this seems suitable topic :D Anyone played 2players VS. CPU match? How does the controls & player changing work on 2v AI? There were some glitches in PES2011 like player switching to other player during feints etc...

I'm going to ask my favorite question here again :) Has anyone played the demo with 2 human players on one team? I've always played ML with a friend like that, and it's so much fun.. though in PES2011, the controls like this were badly flawed in many situations. How is it in PES2012 demo?

Consider Amateur as a troll with sophisticated language and a classy hat. You get the picture enough to simply ignore. This time he in fact has some point. I don't see any reasonable needs to overly complicate controls as Amateur wishes, but I'd like to see analog stick being used as analog...

Well if these are "the issues" in PES, it sounds like the game is going to be incredible this year. Thanks!

Ok this post just settled me to download the 1st demo, before the second demo comes in case they mess this up :D

All the comments sound so good that I probably have to get the demo in case that Konami messes something up on the final release :D

haha sounds good :D Hopefully in that case they tune it a bit, but definitely this is a sign of improvement to me

:D Well said, and being overly satisfied in doing it thus not noting the other cat sized problems with the game.

As I'm seeing a topic relating stats and ML I try milking this for info :D Have you guys found it useful to train SPEED in individual training. Speed increases so slow - hardly none at all, it seems much more wise to just train everything else but speed. This causes a dumb situation where it...