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:lol2: Just go speak to any professional who's not out to get your money. Try the internet or magazines if you don't know any professionals. Over short distances HDMI quality won't make a difference. There has been many tests performed with all the same results; $10 hdmi vs $300 Monster =...

D-Pad all the way. I also find it just as easy to perform a 360 on D-Pad and it's quicker to perform the other tricks. Never feels like I'm in complete control with the stick.

Wow you're pretty close to me. I'm from Hamilton hehe small world :tongue:

Seems you're right component can do 1080p but just for games not movies. I don't have an xbox so I was under the impression component can only do 1080i my apologies. Pes is definitely 720p for Ps3 but I just read it can do 1080p for 360 so my apologies again :blush:

All the sites are posting Oct 28 now instead of November 11/14. Awesome if true, having to wait til Feb/March in the past to only waiting 2 weeks to a month :happy:

First off, both Pes and Fifa only runs at 720p. Only HDMI can run 1080p. Second, like byrnie says they all give off same quality, but the more expensive ones are much more durable. If you have rodent trouble or pets that like to chew maybe get something decent, otherwise just get the cheapest...

or....maybe cuz I've never in my life seen a poster for Pes (or WE back in the days) in Canada. Forget about an ad on tv either. Dunno about the states but could be the same. Fifa on the other hand is all over the place. You come in a shop and there'll be dozens Fifas conveniently lined up at...

Please tell me you meant the ps2 version. If you meant next gen then...maybe you've been doing too much of this :brickwall:

Just about every game cheats, not just Pes. The industry just haven't reached that level of AI yet. Just play any other game out there and you'll see. Games are designed on a normal or regular difficulty and the higher you increase it the more baddies they throw at you. Then they'll give the...

Those people can't use those updated rosters or kits online. You should be able to with official updates.

If you on top player just lower the difficulty to pro or regular. On top player the ai gets a big stat boost, which is why these slow players can match pace with your speed demons. Always been like this in every pes.

No thanks I'll wait the extra 3 weeks :happy: Got other games to play until Pes comes here hehe.

Great review ceysin. Loved the demo and after reading this I think I'm gonna die from happiness when I get the game. November is too far. Sucks to be a footy lover in Canada :(

Pes 5 has the whole package. Great game overall but Pes 3's amazing gameplay takes my vote. Even til this day I'm still amazed at how it plays and what Konami achieved with it.

It's crap for ps3 but I still played it a lot :erm: The graphics are horrible and it is so laggy offline. Long balls really really suck and there's a huge ball magnet on the sidelines. The ps2 one is really good though and the pc was smooth and sharp. Never tried 360 one but from videos it...

Mainly animations and full 3d faces, etc. Pes faces are not full 3d, they just plaster on a photo but it does a dam fine job and I definitely prefer it to Fifa's way, for now anyways. Maybe a year or 2 later Fifa will have much better faces. Honestly though neither game is really next gen...

I never knew that the massive lack of licenses and crappy self created music made it a big budget game :unsure: Pes was always a low budget game man and it always will be. Lets hope that changes with 2010 :happy:

Yup. Quite a few games had a similar mode before Konami and EA. Source

:chanlaugh: nice. My house got robbed when I was young and those bastards took my snes games, including my precious super soccer :crymore:

Pop it in! I just did and couldn't stop playing. I swear it's Pes 2009 demo without the nice graphics. And Arsenal is dam good in that game, makes the 2009 Arsenal look like a joke. Wish it had the R2 trap ball though.