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As I stated many times already, the stats have less difference than they did in 2011, theres less difference between players as a result. Even defenders feel agile and have good ball control and close control.

I just can't continue playing pes 2012 with this super close control that players have, if they don't tone it down in the final game im not playing this year at all.

This is one of the biggest issues that is holding pes 2012 back atm. Dribbling is good, but the problem is that EVERY player dribbles good, there is no inviduality. Same goes for all the other areas of play, there is too little difference between them, in the previus PES games there was a...

No seriously this dribbling/close control of players needs to be toned down its absolutely ridicilous its like a yoyo. Anyone who refuses to believe me go play PES 2011 and hold sprint button and see how many steps players take before they touch the ball again, I made a comparison and Messi...

Actually no its fully worthy of facepalm. Anyone who claims some game is perfect is obviously a fanboy and blind, no game is ever perfect and there are always flaws and things to improve, if you fail to realize that then your a blind fanboy. And yes about the game itself some people's opinion...

qft but the problem is they wont fix it... hopefully yair can fix this somehow with a patch but very hard.

I don't know how some people keep giving this game such high grades, there are so many fundamental things so wrong with it... QUwf8dO-O4I Here check this, this vid shows Rangers ( club with D technique ), and its player sprinting with the ball while having such close control that perhaps...

My rating is 1-2 dogshit 2-3 shit 4~ not good but not shit either 5~ better but still many issues 6~ good but some flaws 7~ very good but not great 8~ great game with very little flaws, some minor issues here or there 9~ amazing anyhow, im going to list some fundamental things I...

fifa is shite but how can you say you have perfect control in pes 2012? you can't push the ball a bit further away from ur feet if you want to cut into the defender's side ( apart from using R1+R2 which is automated and random direction ) due to everyone having Messi like control of the ball no...

sadly thats only a few issues, im really disapointed in KONAMI, haven't they been receiving our feedback!?

Im just being realistic brah, obviously a perfect 10 is impossible, because you can never please everyone so the top grade possible is probably around 9, this demo here is about 5-5.5 , decent game with some improvements over 2011 but many flaws still remain and new ones emerged. I was expecting...

I would rate the first demo as 4 and the 2nd one as 5 out of 10. PES 2011 for example was a 4.

Seems like people either love it or are absolutely disgusted by it.

Its funny how people were arguing about the game being assisted too much, but its the same this year just the new things. They only fixed the old ones that people complained about, KONAMI is clueless really. For example the new speed burst, you press R1+R2 and thats it, you burst past a...

I agree with what you said but KONAMI is not capable of doing that sadly, I realized that long ago. So I would at the very least like how it was before, to be limited in pushing it a bit more, since thats what I need in 90% of those situations. oh well...

nothing.

I don't think il be buying pes 2012 from what ive seen, I don't like it at all. They can talk about improvements all they want but what does it matter if they improve some parts if they ruin other ones. The close control in this game ruins everything for me, its not even world class...

And why is it impossible to catch up an attacker once he goes past you even if he only has 2m advantage and hes slow, someone without the ball is much faster , I mean catch up bug was ridicilous in PES 2011 but now they went into another extreme again.

Can someone explain why Speed again matters SHIT in a football game? I can't even catch a slow attacker running through the flank if he has an advantage even if I sprint after him with Lennon, top speed means nothing at all?