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they wont update it at midnight dont be silly. They have there set times as does xbox. PC is a different ball game, that could be midnight but those hoping to get it on PS at 12.00 are living in a dream world.

feck off complaining about nets! PES has had many other problems that needs addressing, nets been the least of their worries! I dont understand why this is such a big deal with people, i dont even notice the damn nets. Having said that you are right in that konami have ignored the fans and...

NBA jame was an awesome game. Ahh the memories. As for your quarms. I agree, not played the demo yet but i can imagine this been bad. GKs shouldnt be able to hardly any tricks unless its a GK with a history of such things. As for the mentality i think they were the only good thing about the...

the ronaldo goal from earlier is a majopr bug. this is minor. On the other hand if it flew that distance and went in the back of the net konami would have a problem! Something similar occasionaly happened on fifa10 to me when clearing. didnt go as high but just soared all the way out for a goal...

still no news on xbox demo? will download on PC but i bet half the servers are down straight away!happens with all big game releases.

i agree PES has changed more this year, FIFA looks simialr. But then again PES 1-6 were all very similar. When you have a winning formual like PES1-6 and FIFA 10 why alter it drastically? The last few PES have been poor and thus PES2011 had to look alot different and be different, FIFA doesnt...

hmm so thats what happened to D'allessandro. Always fought he was a good player and its a fine goal. Swerve looks very good in that shot, it hasnt in all the vids though. The goal in the 1st full lenght vid on the 1st page of this thread scored by the AI is kind of good, simply because the...

stange. The WCD and FIFA10 had plenty of individuality. Playing with a good player was clearly different to playing with say messi or villa and this was instantly notable. The thing i am most looking forward to in fifa is work rate. Its about time a football game had this. Im sick of Messi in...

i think its just early demos and betas. Not online gameplay ala us 360 users.

havent played the demo so i dont know. But imo its how people play the game that defines if top player is too easy or hard. If your shit its hard. If your good it should still be hard. If you dont mind constantly scoring crap goals and not playing proper football its easy. My feelings for hard...

ball swerving didnt look too bad. kind off like the jubalani (SP?). The villa volley on the other thread has me worried.

you get the game later, logic suggest you will get the demo later. Not to mention it will be WE you get will it not?

will be there upload speed then. Bound to happen, some people get lucky others dont. All the popular things soon get over occupied and servers ect cant handle them. Release day of FIFA last year i couldnt create a game face. Release day of Left 4 DEAD 2 on steam despite having the game...

heard it year in year out. So dont listen to a word any of them say as year in year out it has dissapointed. judging by videos it looks an improvement on the last 4 installments so hopefully konami are now moving in the right direction after driving blind the last few years. Having said that...

i dont know, but my bet would be that there is not any means to arrange a private league. Konami will have been too busy perfecting pumpkin heads for this. Its a bright idea though. Personnaly i would like a league where if i have my 4 mates in it it is filled with AI teams. So for example i am...

demos out next week. download that and try it the you will know. Cant see it been much more than PES2010. If you could play that comfortably you should definently be able to play this to some degree.

my faith comes from the fact that it cant be any less enjoyable for me than PES2010

getting it on pc so that doesnt really help you. I have an xbox though but its cheaper on PC and editing and patching is millions better. For you i would say go with which ever console you have the most PES friends on, simples. PES does tend to suit the PS more. But maybe i just think that...

i agree unclefredo. Although i am looking forward to the demo as the vids look better than PES2010 (which was awful imo. the last few i havent even completed a whole ML season on, before them i was completing at least 10 seasons per save, sometimes upto 3 different saves/teams) Even if the demo...

^^^^ I agree with what your saying about PES needs to advertise. I dont agree with what you say about FIFA. Im sure theres plenty of Kids that do play it but i aint a casual gamer when it comes to football games and i managed to paly FIFA for the last 12 months. I played PES for 1 week tops this...