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Nice one! The technical stuff is what I love about PES. But this is also the reason why my friends hate it. I got put down so hard when I tried to say FIFA was arcadey... FIFA gives the illusion when you look at it, that its more real than PES. PES takes longer to master which is good. Loved...

I have not played the FIFA13 demo this year but I'm expecting more of the same like FIFA12. Played the PES13 demo and was not overly impressed either. FIFA12 is terrible, thats all im saying it does not feel like real football at all, it LOOKS like a real game but plays really strange. PES12...

Hi I have played the hell out of PES12 this past year and loved it! Just played a few games on the demo2 and I'm struggling to find much different. I've noticed that the CPU kicks the ball higher in the air. I have not noticed any player likeness at all, maybe im being blind but everyone...

Yeah I know, not sure whats going on but I guess there is nothing we can do, I doubt they will update it to 5min per half now its been submitted...

No VanPersie for utd, expected though. Nani Seems to have highest rating haha! CL teams x Libertadores teams in different sections

No the longest half I've had has been 2:50 seconds... Timed!

PESFan just posted this: Anyone else confused by the #PES2013 Demo 2 match length? We've found each half lasts just over 2:50 by our clock.

real madrid,barca,valencia,athletic club,man united,bayern munich,juventus.and in copa santos,corinthians,boco juniors,chivas

Just realised this must be my oldest forum, 2004 wow, 8 years! I only use it around PES release time!

Reading the comments, I'm so excited by this! I really liked 2012, felt it was the best PES since PES6. So if its an improvement on that and they have not changed much then i'll be happy. Only thing that bothers me about PES 2012 is that some players seem to affect the balance of the game...

Messi can run though your whole team he is on a high, thats frustrating. And iniesta and Xavi never fail a pass. Their centre backs are big and they have 2 good holding midfielders. I think if Messi is on a down then they usually can't score. The other strikers are not that good to get through...

Yeah im still around the 580 mark, mainly due to being at 620 then the connection dropped and I got docked 30 points! :realmad: But every time someone is Barcelona I play as Barcelona and I think Im typically better than 80% of people I play so end up winning usually. I can handle Real...

Ok just come off a stretch of 8 games. First 5 games were against people who were Barcelona and they were all lower ranked than me... Lost all 5... The next 3 games were against players higher ranked than me as other top teams, AC Milan, Man City and Real Madrid. I won all 3. Ive been playing...

Welcome to the forum where people slag off pes!

Just saw this what Jon Murphy wrote: Hello PES fans, I just got back from Japan and I’m happy to reveal the details of the second free update for PES2012 on PS3, Xbox360 and Windows PC which went live yesterday. After our day-one patch and the first DLC for PES 2012, the current update allows...

Ok, it is annoying about Messi being so good and Barcelona. BUT if you watch them play they really are that good, and I think Messi in real life is better than in the game... See here... Just incredible! http://www.footytube.com/video/barcelona-fc-viktoria-plzen-oct19-93547?ref=tchan_ov_vidgrid

I think the post above is a short guide haha!

Can you please change the picture of Michael Owen on the homepage... He plays for Utd now!!!

Yeah I agree definitely more people slagging the game off. Im just happy to have a PES game that I think is the best since PES6. I love it! And can score 1on1 ones quite happily, putting it in any corner I wish ha! Obviously the keeper will save some though, like real life...

I wouldnt even bother arguing mate, I got flamed for saying that the shooting was fine and people just needed to learn the game more. People should talk less in here and learn how to play... They have definitely listened more to complaints this year, 2 demos and 2 updates have been really good.