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I don't think it's proven exactly, I just think games should be based on fact and actual events instead of future possibilities. Everyone's entitled to their own opinions though :)

I didn't play enough of the ML in 11/12 to comment I'm afraid. The current MLO is very enjoyable though, you have a ranking number which determines which league you are in (this gets updated weekly) Contracts have to be paid and can be lengthened by 10 matches, 20 matches or 50 matches...

Future games could be adjusted if a player of increased ability comes into the fray. The game is made to a current date, so all things should be made based on what has happened, not on speculative things that could happen.

So nobody gets top marks? At some point there has to be a person who is the best in the world at something, how can you have a higher rating available if the best in the world at that attribute doesn't have it?

Football is a game based on humans, so surely the best ever dribbler in the world should have a dribble accuracy of 99, just like the hardest striker of a ball ever should have 99 for kicking power - there is no point having the scale to 99 otherwise? the top scale attainable should be based...

I only play PES last year for MLO, I loved it, the online was much better than 11. Hopefully it will improve this year aswell, and there will be less flaws people can utilise to win games cheaply. It's usually not the game that ruins peoples experiences when playing online, it's the...

There def seems to be favourite teams on PSD when looking through.

100%

I'm a man utd fan and I wouldn't take ronaldo back instead of Valencia in a heartbeat, I love valencia but Ronaldo is on a different scale. He is easiest the second best attacking player in the world, and his close control is pretty damn good, especially at speed. But yeah he is probably...

And they downgraded Tom Cleverly massively for some reason.... Bad form PSD ;)

They've never explained the training parts very well at Konami. I also had a problem with the second part of the dribble training challenge, 2 touch dribble, couldn't do that no matter how many times I went back and copied what it was telling me to do.

Ahhh no is 5 mins it says on settings, feels longer though.

I'm pretty sure the ps3 demo is 10 min matches. I like the new demo, but think I proffered the feel of demo one, the passing is better on demo 2 though, has the manual passing had a buff? I seem to be able to be making some immense manual passes and I was struggling in demo 1. The training...

I'm meaning to get my own MLO team to play in their style. Miranda, castolo, ruskin and co don't win on their own ;)

Pes is feeling more like the ISS pro's of old. Liking the demo alot, 2012 improved from 2010 and 2011 and this 2013 demo is a huge improvement from 2012.

Man utd and barce please :)

My mistake, I thought chelsea were available. I forgot about santos and penarol

Is that on beginner? You looked to run through the defence far too easily. Nice lob :)

I'm just remembering what was there in last years demo. Was it Milan, Man utd, Bayern, Juventus, Real, chelsea, barca, spurs? (in the 2 together)

10 minute matches and 11 teams? Will definitely keep me going until release. Man utd, chelsea, man city, barca, real on the demo please.