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Yeah same here mate! Me and my brother love it. All of my friends constantly tell me how bad and stupid it looks! Maybe... but it plays much more like the real game, wow factor is reason I still play it! I just find FIFA really boring.

Is it out? I hate FIFA, all my friends think its better because of the animations. Funny im the only one out of them all that actually plays football each week... PES is for people who understand the game!

I swear Konami enjoy pissing us off. They should do what Bungie did with Halo and let it go to another development team...

Well hope they improved more than what they said! They were not the only things that were wrong! :(

Yep! Rolled one accross the floor from about 35 yards and it went in, curled in! shit keepers!

Like ME! ha!

YES! Get an English football mad developer in there!

I love PES, but still don't think its good enough by today's standards... Not moved on enough for my liking... See PES 3 below... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSY9wnE74Wo&feature=related Off the ball movement of PES 2012 is in PES 3 of 2004... Odd, maybe Konami created a time machine and...

No in 2006 it actually was good game... What a stupid comment, that's like saying Goldeneye on N64 wasn't that good because there was nothing around to compete with it... A game can still be good even with no competition you know! Yep 360 demo delayed...You can still get it on ps3 and PC...

Best for me was PES 3 in 2004. That was so far ahead of anything else at the time! Its odd I remember playing this and thinking football games in 10 years time are going to be amazing! Well we are nearly there and I dont think we have moved on too much at all... Backwards in some ways... If you...

Seems stupid that at the last minute they would pull it... Surely would have been put on days ago then they would just turn it on today! I smell bullshit!

Lucky ive got an xbox and ps3 ;)

Wow from some of the videos posted up I think it looks really good! Almost looks real the way they are playing! Cant wait to play this!

Ha yeah or maybe thats konami's new player movement system... Wouldnt surprise me! haha!

Yea I agree, looks a bit stupid... I love building up slowly not just run run run run backwards and forwards like basketball! Defo going to slow it down!

They are rated overly high by the looks of it... AC Milan wtf ha!

Players defo making good runs! Looks really good!

Another

Where has this info come from? Cant find this anywhere... Seems a bit early.

Yeah hope the right stick to move a player is easy... I remember FIFA doing that a few years back and I never got the hang of it! Always got tackled while concentrating on the player I wanted to move! Dont think males can multitask well ha!