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Dont agree at all i think this is still the same build as the pes demo and not the later WE demo. Feels the same and i could tell when going back to the WE demo afterwards. Hope its sorted.

yea this defo feels like the pes demo not the we demo. No lag but really sluggish, u get the ball then you push the pass button and it takes about 3 seconds by then youve been tackled... crap but good no lag just hope we get we gameplay

hope the final game is faster cos the response times r rubbish on here again.

No lag at all which is good. But was frustrating like the first pes demo. This doesn't feel like the we demo. It may not be cos it's got the same teams, no brazil

No lag wooooo

Y? There are a lot of old games that are better than stuff that come out now. They didn't used to have realistic graphics or animations like fifa10 so they relied on gameplay. Which is what pes 1 did and that engine still stands up today becaus it's still used in pes 2010. So yeh I do think i'd...

Its essentially the same game engine and i personally think that fifa hasnt got an engine that is better than the pes one so no im not kidding.

Its the same with my mates fifa is better cos it was last year so it must be good... pes is shit... narrow minded. pes 1 is better than fifa 10

After yesterdays positive comments on the game then they give it 7? If they gave fifa 9 i would give the winning eleven demo 8 at least just because its better football gameplay. Then give pes 9, but what do i know i havent played it yet. FIFA has blinded people because their game was good last...

Its hard to say what its like until we play ourselfs. One thing i noticed from a review video was that through balls are improved from the WE demo which did my head in! Yea i noticed they stopped after a pass, you gota wait about 2 seconds for them to move...

My first pes i played was pes 2. My brother got it and i couldnt get into it at first took me ages but fifa was so bad that year that i didnt have anything else so i kept playing then i got it and havnt looked back, defo takes a while and the reviewers will have played it for what a week at most...

Think they do make mistakes, to be honest if you have played the winning eleven demo its going to be similar to that. If not then yea keepers are better and the final build is a lot better. HAHA yea they could do with more colour in their faces! Yea maybe, the fifa animations are better, but...

Yea i know thats what i mean. Even my mates who swear by fifa admit pes graphics are better...

lol whatever marcgiu ive seen u slagging pes off in other posts just go fifa website!

People who say pes is crap havent played it enough to warrant that statement... Unlike fifa, pes takes a while to get into. BUT when you do OMG its amazing! So much more like real football, the emotion, creativity, random situations like in the real game, the feeling of scoring a goal that has...

Yea i guess your right but I think most people who played the winning eleven demo think that pes is more fun on the pitch than fifa, surely that would give it a better score because ultimately on the pitch is where it matters... I love pes this year cant wait for it!

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same here

lol i dont buy it eitha, ive played footie games since 1995 and im not on manual yet lmao! That was Sensible world of soccer... Ahh the memories!