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I have to say peeps I'm considering selling my PS3 copy for all of the reasons above. I might just buy the PC version when it comes out and put a shit load of modifications on there to get rid of all this scripting. Master league is simply riddled with cheating and I can stand no more

I just wrote a little piece saying how refreshing the game seemed on the PC. Yes the graphics are better and I said the gameplay was a joy. THEN I went into Master League to give it a go on the PC - different story!!! LOL So you're right phillyfan23, I think the 'cheating' just comes alive...

Well it's really intriguing me I have to say, I'm watching Milan v Marseille on his rig right now which is by no means a top end machine, just a basic dual core, 2gb ram and decent graphics card. But the game looks stunning. The players look brilliant and like you say the game is smoother...

Okay I have the PS3 version of PES US, but my friend has the PC version....am I friggin missing something or is the PC version far superior than the PS3 version? Not just in terms of graphics etc, but my mate was running a few watch matches to bump his points up so he could get the club lineups...

For me Top Player is the biggest problem. I am probably around mid-table in my Top League league and had a barrage of people telling me to drop down a level because I wasn't good enough on Top Player. Top Player however is just a cheat fest. If I drop the game down to Professional I find...

For me, no not really. Most people go Real or Barce and pressure the hell out of you. There's no point trying to play possession football to tire them because I think the fatigue system is broken. Played a guy who went as Real pressured the hell out of me all game...I didn't pressure once and...

As a side point how are people's pens in the game? I played it throughout yesterday trying this that and had four or five pens, which was unusually high. Mostly fouls on Suarez. However I missed all of them. One was bottom left with Adam, one was bottom right with Adam, one was right with...

lol, nice

It's these patches from the PES community that make me gutted I've got a PS3. Out of curiosity, what will PES2012 run on, for PC. I mean run well at, with nice graphics etc. I have Dual Core 1.8ghz Athlon, 2GB Ram, and a decent graphics card. Will it run very well on this guys?

COMPACTNESS - I was recently getting hit by lots of lofted through balls down the wings especially against teams like Chelsea and Arsenal. I moved my full backs out wider on the tactics screen but this had little effect. I then changed Compactness to a higher rating say 12/13/14 and it made...

I think the reason is Smink, that with a couple of alterations this would be one epic game. Just if they just toned down the AI cheating it would be a million per cent better. Combine that with them cutting down the ghost like shimmys of ALL attackers on the game and you have near enough the...

No smartass, I figured out that the sliders can have a dramatic impact on how much the CPU rapes you. But thanks for that input (sigh). Which may be bad actually because if your tactics board and slider levels have so much weight in the final outcome of a game, then the actual playing of the...

Okay, I'm just starting a thread that others can add if they wish about breakthroughs that improve the game. I can only speak from experience, but just now I had a huge breakthrough in gameplay. I've been frustrated by AI cheating and shit over this last few days and was ready to ditch it for...

It's not crap, in many ways it is brilliant. The problems arise from the inherent game AI and overpowered individual stats. Top Player is scripted from top to bottom. KONAMI have set the game up to play as fast and direct as possible, the outcome is is that build up play doesn't necessarily...

I hate to say it DaveyC17, but the opening post may be right in many ways. I have written long and often boring (to some) posts about PES in the past, and this PES this year. I have been totally unbiased and regard myself as a PES player first and foremost. I have highlighted all the...

This whole thing is confusing me, and it really needs to be looked at by KONAMI. For me personally this is how it pans out. I want to play the game on pitchside cam, I think it's the cam that sells PES the best. However, it is rubbish for actually stopping CPU attacks as the angle is too low...

It's really weird. I want the game to be as sim as possible, and yet can't win a great deal and see lots of AI cheating on -1 and -2. BUT, when I put the gamespeed to it's default, which is ultra ultra fast I grant you, I started to win. Beat Arsenal 2-0, then Swansea 3-0. This game is mad...

LOL, I've more or less had it with this game now. Tonight has just driven me to the brink. I've posted a dozen or so times about my findings but nothing is changing. Tonight had a game v Wolves, battered them scored in the 77th minute, guess what they score in the 79th with one of their only...

As a PS3 owner with a mediocre PC that is incapable of playing PES properly - my heart sinks! Unhappy smiley

Yeah certain players like to be played all the time, others come to you because they are surprised that you picked them.