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..giving a more realistic experience and great feel? Are you kidding me? excuse me but I think making players who weight like a feather and skate, instead of actually jogging on the pitch, is not calling it REALITY or GREAT... It is ABYSMAL and a shame KONAMI have opted for this so called...

Hello guys.... Just out of curiosity, do you PC or 360 users feel a "FLOATY" feeling in the game, no matter the game speed.... the players on PS3 always feel they are skating on ice. It's like no matter the dimensions of the player, he is very light and loose. This becomes even more obvious...

8 out of 10. and this is considering that I give PES11 a 9 out of 10.

Thanks alot techboy11 for your observations.... I will go delete the patch right away and get back with the results later tonight... I completely agree with what you say about keeper's being better illusion and the dumbed down active AI... Be back anyway...

I cant believe 0 has got that much votes. maybe its the platform diff though, coz on PS3, even -2 is a tad fast...

Light as in twisted gravity...rigidity of the players...friction blah blah blah

Does the game feel lighter compared to earlier iterations? I know it should be, to some extent, due to more freedom and all that, but it IS very light imo and needs to weight up.

So you're sayin if, hopefully, we get a patch or something later, hopefully for the friggin speed, it shud only be compatible with this DLC? Do you have any idea if this wud screw with our current OF? Have you tried it?

yes WEIGHT....lost word in PES 2012

So is this WORTH it? and I am not talkin abt stupid boots.... will this in any way fuck up MRGAMETIGHT's Option File?

This is just unacceptable...why would they do that? :no: Seriously, the loose feeling is a game killer....players feel like headless chickens skating on ice most of the time. This light feel effects the game play mechanics too....from collisions to shots...everything feels weird. and the feel...

Dude I'm talking about the PS3 version. Believe me, it's much faster compared to PES11 and at any speed level. I have heard the PC version is slower and I envy that, but the question is, why the hell should they do that? Is that a hardware problem with PS3? Do 360 users feel the same compared to PC?

You nailed it bro. It's like there is no friction...it's too light for my taste and needs to weight up a bit. Previous versions were tighter and I expected that more freedom would bring the kinda loose feeling PES12 has but MY GOD its TOO light ! Am I being over sensitive?

After spending a couple of PES dedicated days I can now give my final verdict of the game. KONAMI seem to have spotted the two most important things for me in PES series and took action by completely screwing it. 1. The hilarious game speed is a GAME-BREAKER for me as it is now unplayable on...

^ YOU have no problem.... You can't go around and judge people like that. It is a preference rather than a must....Some people like me, wanna play an slow real-life game with no sloppy feet. Some people like you wants to just play it the "ping-pong" way which is fine by me. Respect yourself.

The list can go on...for PS3. Players movement is also messed up. on -2, they are like skating on ice or something. you can't build up as you want. ball bounces like crazy. player impacts are hilarious... Broken is the word, unfortunately. Patch is URGENT or else the game is unplayable for guys...

KONAMI has sand in her.....?? Asperger?? lol

You nailed it man. It is meant to be played fast and direct. I am all for the build up play and I am extremely disappointed now. AI cheats and scripted play is all over the pace. PES has become more of an arcade game I'm afraid. KONAMI can never find a middle ground can they?!

New boots my ass....give us a patch to slow this sh*t down.

Yes dude, it has changed and I am afraid it is uber fast now.