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All players age, then regenerate as 17 year olds when they retire (with lower stats i think). Basically you can view your players growth curve. it shows a graph and the curve represents the point when he will reach his peak and won't improve any more. So if his curve peaks at age 25 and then...

It just depends on the player for when they reach their peak. For example Del Piero's stats were falling in my first season, and his growth curve was declining. But Nedved, who's older, his stats were still rising. Check C Ronaldo's growth curve if you haven't already, that should tell you...

Gonna be taking pics in a min finally got hold of the PS2. Sorry not taking pics of any stats, takes too long.

I'll admit I got the beta version when it came out, but a day or so later the review copy came through, thanks to my bro in law. It's exactly the same. 95% of review copys are the final game, so there you go. And magazine reviewers are not professionals! lol They're normal people for gods...

Sorry been busy with work, plus i haven't got a PS2. I can only take them if I get to borrow my nephews PS2, which isn't very often. I doubt people want pics of the Xbox beta version... And i wouldn't say the amount of pictures i've taken is a lack of pics...i've taken a couple of thousand id...

I still don't know if Chapi is a regen or not. He has 97 Accel and 98 Aggression and he's only 17. Got a good growth curve too. Not sure where I bought him from. Anyone know if he's a regen of a famous player? :\

BTW here's 2 pics for you to compare. Honestly Rooney looks like something out of Beetlejuice in Fifa: Rooney in PES4 on PS2: Rooney in Fifa 2005 on XBOX:

Both versions at the mo lol Mostly PS2. Anyway here's another I scored last night. Proud of this one too as it was my new ML signing Dagaka in only his 2nd game: Dagaka Blast!

Sorry I had to delete most of my WE8 stuff as I didn't have enough webspace for the PES4 pics and vids :(

I'd try it out first Blount_123 by renting it, I was still disappointed with the game to be honest. Yes its a fun game, but thats about all imo. Depends what sort of game you like I guess, a pick-up and play game where you can score spectacular goals all the time - then go for Fifa 2005. Or a...

Here's 3 players i've bought after a season: Chapi - 17 years old, 97 Accell, 98 Aggression. Got lots of time to improve him. Ono - Decent player, decent at Free Kicks too. Takahara - Scored in every game he's played in so far (about 12). Not that good stat wise but definitely doing the...

I have both ps2 final version and the xbox beta. I'm preferring the xbox version at the minute. I had a lot of slowdown on 60hz mode on the PS2 version, and in 50hz mode the game seem to run faster, not sure if it was me though. The xbox version has no slowdown whatsoever. I'm used to the...

No PES4's graphics are better imo. They are "cleaner". Like I said, most player models look terrible in Fifa 2005. Rooney looks utter crap compared to him on PES4.

Yes ash they do look bald honestly! They've basically just painted their hair on the players heads, so it looks like their bald. Rooney looks really crap, he's got a tiny head. There's a few that look good (Becks for one) but most i've seen don't look as good as they do on PES4.

lol cheers lads. Yeah Appiah has scored a couple of decent goals for me, esp that volley in WE8 ;) Hopefully more to come from Takahara though, he really is class.

hehe sorry mate :) Like I said its a fun game, I didn't turn it off straight away like people saying they would, I played quite a few games. Kinda enjoyed it but the shooting was a big let down for me and so were the set-pieces. There's plenty of teams though and plenty of different leagues.

I have played the game though, and also PES4

Here's another I scored today. I'm proud of this one, it's one of my bargain signings in ML - Takahara: Takahara Placement Volley

Giggsy did you read my view of the game? I'm not being unbiased I was hoping it would be just as good as PES4 but the shooting just lets it down completely.

I have played both on the xbox. I have to disagree with most points he's made. Yes the presentation is better on Fifa. But there's no way the player models are better than PES4! Most players look absolutely pathetic, honestly, especially Rooney. There is clipping in PES4 but i'm 95% sure this...