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I couldn't understand how he was doing this at first, but I started playing with the sliders, and they make a huge difference if you learn what each one does. For example, player support and attacking range have a huge effect on the ability to complete through passes. It's not the passing...

I forgot to mention that IMO what "SHOULD" have been in the update is... Well, what "IS" in the update. In otherwords, I don't expect gameplay or bug fixes on update #1 after 1 month.

They must. Otherwise, it's just a meaningless number. I don't think anyone actually knows how the stats decrease specifically though...

I think people need to chillax. It was well publicized from the beginning that this patch wasn't for gameplay. Let's give the guys at Konami a chance. PS - Vermaelen up = using Aresenal online more often ;)

Online button lag is obviously #1, and it really should be fixed if possible, especially given how up in arms the community in general is about it. I have a feeling that they are definitely trying to fix it, but the question I think is more a matter of whether they can or not. #2 I think is...

Under the wall works for me too. Press backwards/down on the stick and hold O for power. To combat this always hold A and B (on xbox) so your players run forward but don't jump. TIP: The same technique works great to roll one into the area as a through pass or to create mass confusion in...

Wow. I think the tackling is too effective this year! Sliding tackle is too easy and rarely results in a foul. Standing tackle/pressure is also on the too-easy side, especially when it's as easy as it is to grab the ball from a player in his own 18 yard box. It's so strange how one...

I chose Wolves this year, since it's their first time in the game. Also, they have a decent side but with enough room to grow that there's a good challenge there. PS - I want to max out their fan support like in real life :)

I agree. It's actually nice not to know. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing out on something :laugh: e.g. I thought maybe if your scout or coaching level is high enough you can see it.

So what's the trick then to knowing how good your young players are? Or do you never know until they reach their peak how good they are or might have been?

You should consider the controller too. The 360 controller is more robust, and if you're like me and went through about five PS2 controllers playing WE/PES on the PS2, so you might be a bit concerned about going back to that kind of controller. Mind you, maybe the PS3 controllers are more...

Totally disagree. I have made at least one mazy run with Messi which was brilliant (through the middle and got a shot off to score, almost like Fabgregas' goal against Spurs last weekend). The dribbling is more realistic, and more challenging now IMO, because when you make a play like that you...

Agreed, in fact, having just got the game here in Canada I'll admit I had a tough time with it last night (first playing)... Because I was trying to break the game, not play it. Truth be told, that might also explain a lot of the low scoring reviews.

It's definitely got the same pace as the demo IMO. By the way, in wide cam it looks way better on 1080p! That's obvious of course, but I'm just saying that it's hard to appreciate the new graphics if you're on 720p or lower...

What's an IGN? Is that for Xbox 360 or PS3? I'm on the 360, XBOXLive ID = IMDEF Haven't got the game yet though because I'm still at work. Hoping some stores will have it today...

Cool. That would really improve the dribbling/running animations. What games currently use it that I could check out?

Just to put things into perspective - which I think is missing - can someone name off some games which we should be comparing to when we set the bar for "current gen?" I mean, I don't play a lot of games other than PES, and Fifa disappoints me in so many ways, so maybe that's why arguments...

Thanks Shaun, much appreciated. Being in Canada I haven't got the game yet and I was worried about ridiculously fast games speeds like some people have been saying. I was very happy with the WE demo though, and some people just tend to exaggerate, if you know what I'm saying. You playing on...

How does it compare in terms of game speed? How does it compare to the WE 2010 demo?

What are people's thoughts on the percentage difference betweent he two demos? To me it feels like 15% at least.