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Example: In PES2012, a team that plays with a 4-3-3 and clearly in real life they player (and better) with a 4-2-1-3. Those little things that Konami doesnt see....

(Last post towards you as you obviously have no idea about football at all) You yourself dont know the english language as you said both contribute to attack, which is not true. Sagna contributes to the attack (well year after year less but in general). Maicon builds the attack. In Inter most...

And you read and believe what it says on "their official website"? Stop please. Just stop. Sagna and Maicon have NOTHING to do with each other.

Now that the game has been released in Europe and Im seeing size difference between the US release and the EU release, are the rosters finally fucking updated?

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS THREAD ABOUT? The topic is that Cristiano Ronaldo is overrated in the game. NOTHING was said about Messi. People get on topic. ON TOPIC: In PES5, when Henry was the cover star, he was literally untouchable. I remember Id play with a 4-4-2 and just gave Henry the ball...

They help the midfield CONSTRUCT the attack, hence why they are considered a part of the midfield. Sidebacks CONTRIBUTE to a attack. It seems you have no idea about football do you?

Yeah, for the big teams. The little teams are left without transfers because most of their players come from unknown teams in unknown leagues so you CANT transfer them because they are not in PES2012.

Although similar, they are not the same thing.

Is this avaliable for PC as well?

http://www.onlyproevolutions.com/2011/09/roster-updates-planned-for-pes-2012.html Amazing.........truely amazing...... Someone else besides EA and Konami needs to come out with a football game. Both just plain suck.

A wingback and a sideback are not the same thing at all. Wingbacks help alot more in the midfield than a sideback. While they are at it, why dont they remove the libero position as well? Noone uses it anymore....

Great example. June........Come on. There is MORE than enough time to remove him, even if at that stage you are patching bugs and tweaking certain things.

Exactly. It takes modders here (and some of the modders are just one person working by themselves) to release a patch that updates not only rosters but logos, other teams, etc. Why cant Konami dedicate at least ONE person to this task? I mean, I believe not ONE transfers is in the game. I cant...

Oh boy a "spelling cop". Sue me. If by this you mean (and think) that the EU version is going to get a updated roster when it hits retai, you are so naivie (go ahead Kefire, sue me again for the wrong spelling)

The "a updated roster patch is coming" is no excuse, especially for the loaned players who you KNOW return back to their original teams in the summer. And again "update them yourself" is not a solution, idiots. The small teams usually get unknown players which are not in the national team and...

PES has been horrible in the past with rosters but my god this year is horrible. Players that were loan and return at the end of the season arent in their original clubs. They could have at leased updated that.

What happen to the wingback position? Its not avaliable anymore...

My mistake has the PC version been released. I know the Xbox 360 and the PS3 version have been but Ive heard NOTHING about the PC version.

Has PES 2012 for PC been released in the US? Konami says the day was the 27th but I see no information about the PC version. Has it been released?

The way it needs to be done. I want entertaining, not FIFA 12 bullshit. If you want "realistic" FIFA is there for you.