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Pes is still fighting I hope..

Who gives a shit who wins betwee PES and FIFA?! I played pes 08 and it was shit, period. whether or not pes09 "beats" fifa 09 doesnt mean the game is a fantastic improvement, especially in comparison to the iterations that came before... ~Until konami get their thumbs out their asses im...

what pisses me off is when people say "I dont care about liscences" but if konami were to announce next year that they would have the priemiership and other important liscences, imsure these same people would be jumping up and down..... there's a lot of hypocrisy on these boards....

not devastating but another tick for a minor... konami sure do know how to rack up the minors....

effectively no tucked shirts, as in there uneditable... pretty poor in my book

I hope more compnies start making footie games again, the choice is just too limited..

Yeah totally agree about sombero's etc, amateur... also it would be great to add a specfic feature for a player like kaka, where he knocks the ball into space, usually behind the defender, to run onto.... would be pretty cool.

I think the Ronaldo should have attack of 97/98, but all else should be moderate... He is definetly the best attacking player in the world, but I wouldnt say he has the best technique,dribbling ability, passing or shooting in europe... Close to the best, but not the best.

I was just looking through the games section in my room and came across Uefa striker for the ps1 I think. Anyways in the manual it explains that R2 can be used to "bring down the ball in the air". I've mentioned this to other posters, why can't konami do something similar for PES? I...

As long as Clichy and Sagna stats arent shit anymore im happy..

I think if they were able to have all the teams participating in the 08/09 champions league liscenced then that would soften the blow, but i guess its not meant to be.... still the gameplay is alledged to be approved and the graphics are looking polished so still looking forward to it....

I agree with Amateur, especially when it seems Konami have paid to use the logos and all other paraphenalia(sp) but not the liscencing of teams involved in this seasons competition... The only reason why it wouldnt be in the ML would be because CL liscence includes all the proper team...

Just noted something.... If you stop the video on the 1 minute mark at the part when the team in the red and white stripes is celebrating, you can make out the name "Romaldinho" on the back of one of the players shirts..... Now, as I recall, Romaldinho is on WE team or PES team which by...

I think its less physical, but teams such as River Plate, Boca Juniors, Sao Paulo etc are good enough to go head to head with the big european clubs... I think it would also be fun for for konami to add another football culture to the game, i.e. argentina's slow build up to a fast attack etc...

The argentinian and brazilian leagues are like youth leagues as its pretty common to be playing at the age of 16-17 there, i.e. Aguero was playing in the league when he was 16..... Seeing as most of the exciting up and coming players play in those leagues, I think Konami should make an effort...

I like FIFA's colour palette for kits etc but thats it...

PES seems more fluid, ut FIFA's collision system is way advanced...

Until Konami announce on their website the demo release date, there will be no demo, period. Besides why would you not notify the public when the demo will be released? sounds very amateur to me...

Im gonna wait till it comes out proper, rent the bitch before I makes me choice... Demo's = propoganda material in my eyes, bear no relation to the real deal... Likewise with Ea's game.... if both dissapoint then I guess just play old renditions

I think there are too many misconceptions with FIFA and PES, i.e. FIFA's gameplay is crap, which it isnt... PES gameplay is the most advanced which it isnt judging from last years effort... I mean I cant believe Konami havent tried adding brazilian and argentinian leagues seeing as the...