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A PES4 AND FIFA 2005 Review

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Giggsy11

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yeah the thing with the pes graphics is the more u zoom in the better they look, when i first got pes3 i didn't like the graphics at all ( prefered pes2's ). i think pes games will look so good on next gen consoles :cool:
 

Bravoboy

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Yeah that was what I was thinking the other day, the graphics will get so good, that the PS2 won't be poweful enough to hold it....perhaps Xbox might be but thats another story ;)
 

Bravoboy

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Yeah, the graphics will be incredible, it will be like controlling the actual players....so real :rolleyes:
 

Giggsy11

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also sumet else: pes4 may look more realistic because it has better textures and FIFA is smoother but the thing with FIFA is the player celebrations/cut-scenes look incredibialy realistic ( no gay ones ;) ) so thats why its good when u score with ya fav player on FIFA and see him celebrate cos they don't act gay :D
 

Mike69

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every football game should look like ISS2 on the xbox. the graphics were freakin amazing. wen i was playing with nigeria, my mum taught that i was watching TV when there was a close up on Kanu. no joke
 

Ove Kindvall

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Ove's Pes4 vs Fifa review

My review of Fifa vs PES:

The menu's and total layout are totally different but looking good, I personally like the one from Fifa better. It is in the small things like team badges, colours etc. Disadvantage from Fifa is that it is sloooooooow. The same for the saving proces

Editing is in both games, but for all I have seen till now it's much better in PES, create player was not unlocked in Fifa. But you can transfer players to another team. Big advantage Pes is patchable.

Graphics on the pitch during gameplay: I like both but I think Fifa is better. But names/backnumbers are shite in Fifa and not Fifa worthy. Player faces are better in Pes, with Fifa they look like plastic. The shiny faces in Fifa from last version(2004) are reduced and the pitch is to bright with shiny weather.
You see no rain drops, but Fifa has now water on the field, but in Pes it looks much better. I like the keeper movements(I don't say there better). They respond more natural then in Pes(with the looking to the ball), especially diving looks great in Fifa. It looks to me that the frame rate is higher in Pes, for example Pes have 22 fr/sec and Fifa 18 fr/sec.

Pes have more cut scene's(offside, substitute's etc.) and ref's on the pitch. And the replays after a game are better in Pes. With Fifa it happens that you see the same action over and over and over.... and not the other actions and goals.

Gameplay: mmmm, this is hard there is so much difference between this games, Pes is much faster then Fifa(it looks like you're in thick air), but maybe I have to much played Pes and I'm used to this speed. The new first touch is great and gives you lots of movement but the overall movement and freedom is better in Pes. The set pieces in Fifa is a nice feature. But I hate it when I'm forced to kick directly on goal with a freekick, I want to do what I want. So that's a minor point for Fifa and a big advantage for Pes. Shooting is more realistic in Pes, in Fifa there is to much ball speed when you shoot.
And with Pes you notice more the difference between Henry and Kuyt.
And there are much more small things that are different.

The sound in Fifa is better, you can hear the chearing from the home team. I used as language Dutch and the comment is also Dutch!! Not the greatest commentary(from Evert ten Napel and Youri Mulder) but it is nice. During the game I could hear shouting(I think from the coach), the person shouts: use the wings, bad ball, pressure etc but then in Dutch. The same you hear during a trainings match.

Options in the game: I never have played ML(gonna try it this year) with Pes but I understand that this one of the main things people buying Pes. The management in Fifa is not that big but for the average player fun and not to diffulcult and has a length of 15 year. With Pes you can make your own tournement/league and that's it. With Fifa you can choose for a custom league/tournement or a league/cup from one of the registred competitions.
And that is the big plus from Fifa the total amount of competitions, teams and players.
In both games you can earn points, with Pes you can buy things. I'm not sure with Fifa.
If there's is a cup and European in Fifa during a competition I don't know maybe you must qualify, would be a nice feature.

Conclusion: Fifa 2005 is a giant leap forward from Fifa 2004(one of the worse games in the Fifa series). I think it deserves a closer look and I'm gonna do that. If you have never played a Pes/We game I think this is a great footy game. I'm really surprised what Ea did, but it stays a more arcade game.
But I find Pes a f*****g great game and I love it. And it's is more to real life.

So if you want a total footy game with almost correct line-ups and registred compititions, with great graphics etc then I should choose Fifa.

If you want more realisme in the gameplay and don't mind the editing or patching then choose Pes.

And for the rich and lucky bastard among us :D like me buy them both.
 

Ove Kindvall

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MattShez said:
give them a rating! on Gameplay, sound, play-ability, enjoyment etc. and an overall score! thanx

Hmmm that is hard, I have only played twenty games with Fifa, but I give it a try. My personal rating:

----------------------------Pes Fifa
Gameplay------------------- 9+ 8
Realisme during game-------- 9 8-
Sound-----------------------7 9
Music-----------------------7 7
Graphics in game-------------8 8(due to the backnumbers/faces)
Other graphics---------------7 9
Enjoyment-------------------9 8(till now)
Kits,names etc.--------------7- 9
Cut scene animations--------9 7
Keeper animations-----------7 8(throwing of the ball, it's upperhand)
Options/Competitions--------8 10
Improvement with last year--8 10
Commentary----------------8- 7

Overall I think Pes is the better one(8,5 against 8). But Pes must get better next year because if Fifa takes the same giant leap as this year I think that Fifa is next year the upper party.
 

Giggsy11

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one thing i like which u guys may not know, they have real F.A premier league shirt numbers with the lion at the bottom, this looks nice :)

fifa music just as good a pes? :eek:
u might not be into the music fifa has to offer but pes music is total crap :eek:

and pes has better commentery? i know your dutch but put english commentary on omg thats gotta be wrong
 

garyvann

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Giggsy11, I am sorry to say that FIFA 05 is just not a game for real football fans in my opinion. And I find it annoying as I'm a fan of Giggs. May you like dribbling so much u can accept FIFA.

I don't even want to compare the gameplay, as FIFA fell on the first hurdle, graphic. The player model looks terrible, the shapes just looks fake. In PES, Giggsy is just nice to look at, slim and compact and th face is amazing.
 

Ove Kindvall

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I'm easy with music I listen from Beethoven to Slipknot so that's why the music is high for me.
It's so diffulcult to get good commentary into a game I think that better then this you can not get it. Or you msut have two people in your livingroom who give comments....
If I compare it with Tiger Woods/ Nhl/ Nfl and other games it's not bad.

But it's all my opinion, you can have another one.
 

Giggsy11

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garyvann said:
Giggsy11, I am sorry to say that FIFA 05 is just not a game for real football fans in my opinion. And I find it annoying as I'm a fan of Giggs. May you like dribbling so much u can accept FIFA.

I don't even want to compare the gameplay, as FIFA fell on the first hurdle, graphic. The player model looks terrible, the shapes just looks fake. In PES, Giggsy is just nice to look at, slim and compact and th face is amazing.

Yeah i know all about peoples opinions on gameplay, but i liked 2004 and 2005 is a big improvment i mean about the commentary and music, many people would agree that both are better without playing lol

also i seen giggs on pes4 he is an alien also when i score with giggs i will see his tradmark celebration, his shirt and number on the back of the shirt with the proper prem font, a better face and john motson having a little mini orasm when he scores :)
 

Zygalski

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That doesn't stop Wayne Rooney looking Asian in fifa, does it?

In PES you can choose the celebration for each player and have any proper font if you care enough to patch your game. Do the shirt names and numbers in the new fifa still look shit?
 

spikeymaracca

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the guys a full on wanker. Sorry for the language, but ive seen the Fifa graphics and they look like 2004 with new faces...And PES4 graphics are such a big improvement to PES3 and look better than FIFA. But...FIFA is meant to be good this year so...i might rent it to see ;)
 

Lorenzinho

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Giggsy11 said:
john motson having a little mini orasm when he scores :)
We had that in PES2 with Trevor "Orgasmo" Brooking, plus it was random!

Have you seen Reyes? He looks immense... Henry...He looks top drawer.
C.Ronaldo...guess what...he looks class aswell! (<----in PES4) I don't care about the premiership font in FIFA 2005 which, by the way, looks pretty pishy anyway!

I admit...FIFA 2005 is a vast improvement on '04...but i still detest it! There's no way FIFA's graphics are better than PES'. The colours are unnatural, the players are "jaggy", etc.

Hell will have frozen over by the time FIFA's graphics become better than PES'!

P.S. This isn't a dig at you Giggsy, it's just a general comment. Thought i'd say it to prevent any backlash!
 

Giggsy11

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Zygalski said:
That doesn't stop Wayne Rooney looking Asian in fifa, does it?

In PES you can choose the celebration for each player and have any proper font if you care enough to patch your game. Do the shirt names and numbers in the new fifa still look shit?

yeah thing is i don't have to patch fifa they do all that for ya :D
shirt numbers to me seem fine in fifa, but the thing i hate is konami being such a stupid bunch of f**ks they are a goof company i can make a better pes4 than they got now, i personally think they have let alot of pes fans down with this new pes4 as its not much diffrent than a few updates - its a shame really :(

Yeah nothing will beet trevor, he is the sex king - did i just say that? :D
 

Giggsy11

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Singh said:
ill be buying fifa 2005 tomorrow wheres the cheapest shop to get it from :)

i'll prb get mine from woolworths, ripping off the shiny rapper and smelling the box and smelling the new pristine game.... :eek:
 

Singh

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Giggsy11 said:
i'll prb get mine from woolworths, ripping off the shiny rapper and smelling the box and smelling the new pristine game.... :eek:

lol how much isit in woolies? £36? i saw the advert but i forgot.

hmv,game,gamestation have it for like £32 pounds.
 
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