Winning 11
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If so, how is it ??
Anyone got FIFA 2004 ??
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patrick_bateman
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i have to say, anybody that buys it and knows anything about the games industry is an idiot, simple as that.
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Why would you want an edit mode..everything is fully licensed, I don't know about club transfers but everything is in the right place isn't it.
what the fuck has the games industry got to do with it? if people like it, they like it. some people will and some wont. this goes for pes and fifa.
yeah eksol but you cant put yourself and your mates on it, and some apperances are apparantley fucked up on lesser-known players.
yeah eksol but you cant put yourself and your mates on it, and some apperances are apparantley fucked up on lesser-known players.
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Oh, alright then..I'll be getting FIFA 2004 as well..It seems like alot of people like it and think its playable...patrick_bateman get a life !!
patrick_bateman
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fair enough if u like fifa, its a poor game compared to pes3 , .
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Here's the fact,
FIFA 2004 is not better than WE7 or PES3, why ? because of it's gameplay and realism, and that's that. BUT, alot of people don't wanna buy PES3/WE7 or any KONAMI's football games because of the license issue, and alot of people don't know how to use patches, I myself don't know, so people go with FIFA because it's fully licensed, almost every single club team in the world, alot of international teams, and so on.. I personally think, KONAMI needs to get their heads up and think of something...FIFA 2004 is getting better, in FIFA 2004 gameplay has improved, graphics are improved, more stadiums with licenses, ONLINE PLAY, and much much more...here's the things that KONAMI did to PES3 and WE7, "slighty better gameplay, few licenses, few added stadiums and that's about it, maybe some new animations, and better graphics..Imagine what would happend if FIFA and EA decide to put the same gameplay as KONAMI did in WE/PES games, KONAMI would be finished FOR EVER and EVER.
FIFA 2004 is not better than WE7 or PES3, why ? because of it's gameplay and realism, and that's that. BUT, alot of people don't wanna buy PES3/WE7 or any KONAMI's football games because of the license issue, and alot of people don't know how to use patches, I myself don't know, so people go with FIFA because it's fully licensed, almost every single club team in the world, alot of international teams, and so on.. I personally think, KONAMI needs to get their heads up and think of something...FIFA 2004 is getting better, in FIFA 2004 gameplay has improved, graphics are improved, more stadiums with licenses, ONLINE PLAY, and much much more...here's the things that KONAMI did to PES3 and WE7, "slighty better gameplay, few licenses, few added stadiums and that's about it, maybe some new animations, and better graphics..Imagine what would happend if FIFA and EA decide to put the same gameplay as KONAMI did in WE/PES games, KONAMI would be finished FOR EVER and EVER.
If it would be that easy to put the gameplay of PES into FIFA then EA would have done it a couple of years ago. Much easier is it for Konami to buy licenses for PES/WE. 
You say FIFA has almost every single club team in the world. Well, that´s simply not true mate. There are not even 0,001 % of all existing club teams in FIFA.
To be honest, most people never use all teams or leagues that are in FIFA, because nobody knows them, it´s just like with some friends of mine who play FIFA and use the fact that there are a lot of leagues as an argument, but they always play with Juve, Real or ManU. That´s somehow ridicolous to me. And you know what ? Only the superstars have realistic stats and appearances, 90 % of the players are wrong when we speak about appearance and skills. And there is no editor to change it, what is quite annoying for me.
The license issue isn´t that big because of patches, actually patching the game is as easy as installing drivers for your graphic card. People who say they cannot patch the game because it´s to difficult are just to lazy.
You´re right about the improved gameplay, it´s really better then FIFA 2003, graphics and sound are as good as always, but to be honest, I like the PES/WE graphics more, they are more realistic. My personal opinion is:
I´m playing Konami´s footie games since 7 years, FIFA even longer, I think since Amiga-times and the best FIFA still is the 98 version, the gameplay is much better than in 2004, of course graphics are not that good, but that´s normal. The best Konami game is WE7.
You say FIFA has almost every single club team in the world. Well, that´s simply not true mate. There are not even 0,001 % of all existing club teams in FIFA.
To be honest, most people never use all teams or leagues that are in FIFA, because nobody knows them, it´s just like with some friends of mine who play FIFA and use the fact that there are a lot of leagues as an argument, but they always play with Juve, Real or ManU. That´s somehow ridicolous to me. And you know what ? Only the superstars have realistic stats and appearances, 90 % of the players are wrong when we speak about appearance and skills. And there is no editor to change it, what is quite annoying for me.
The license issue isn´t that big because of patches, actually patching the game is as easy as installing drivers for your graphic card. People who say they cannot patch the game because it´s to difficult are just to lazy.
You´re right about the improved gameplay, it´s really better then FIFA 2003, graphics and sound are as good as always, but to be honest, I like the PES/WE graphics more, they are more realistic. My personal opinion is:
I´m playing Konami´s footie games since 7 years, FIFA even longer, I think since Amiga-times
and the best FIFA still is the 98 version, the gameplay is much better than in 2004, of course graphics are not that good, but that´s normal. The best Konami game is WE7.
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Yeah, I understand you. Most of the things you said are true, so I'm not even going to contribute. You being from Germany I assume that you own PES3 as well. What are your thoughts when it comes to PES3 *VS* WE7 ?!?
To tell you the truth bro, I don't see that much of a difference. Alot of people complain about PES3's speed and say its too fast, or the stutter problem, and none of those problems are happening to me. When I play PES3 I don't see "any" stutter at all. And the speed is just perfect,normal and realistic. Alot of people don't know on how much their TV sets can be an issue when playing PES3, or when they get a stutter, it's because of their PS2. I found something very easy and my solution for those problems are = PAY THE MONEY - and you'll be all set. I remember, alot of people told me they have stutter bug in their WE7 copy, I got my WE7 copy around August 11th, and I didn't have any stutter at all. So people complain alot about stuff they don't know. Now let's move on to my original point of view. FIFA 2004 has improved alot, I don't even have the game but after reading so many threads here and on other boards on how FIFA 2004 good is I believe somehow that FIFA along with its makers EA is catching up to KONAMI and it's game series. I don't think KONAMI has better knowledge than EA does as far as the gameplay issue is conserned. EA makes alot more money than KONAMI does, but for some reason they make shitty gameplay in their FIFA series. I'm sure EA knows all about this but it seems to me that they don't care and people still tend to buy their games, especially football fans who buy FIFA. I must admit I will buy FIFA 2004 as well, and I wanna see how much effort did EA put on building this game. PES3 is great, WE7 is great, I wanna see where FIFA 2004 will stand. So at the end, what do you think which game is better PES3 or WE7 ?? both games are done by KONAMI, I know I asked this question before, so don't get pissed.
To tell you the truth bro, I don't see that much of a difference. Alot of people complain about PES3's speed and say its too fast, or the stutter problem, and none of those problems are happening to me. When I play PES3 I don't see "any" stutter at all. And the speed is just perfect,normal and realistic. Alot of people don't know on how much their TV sets can be an issue when playing PES3, or when they get a stutter, it's because of their PS2. I found something very easy and my solution for those problems are = PAY THE MONEY - and you'll be all set. I remember, alot of people told me they have stutter bug in their WE7 copy, I got my WE7 copy around August 11th, and I didn't have any stutter at all. So people complain alot about stuff they don't know. Now let's move on to my original point of view. FIFA 2004 has improved alot, I don't even have the game but after reading so many threads here and on other boards on how FIFA 2004 good is I believe somehow that FIFA along with its makers EA is catching up to KONAMI and it's game series. I don't think KONAMI has better knowledge than EA does as far as the gameplay issue is conserned. EA makes alot more money than KONAMI does, but for some reason they make shitty gameplay in their FIFA series. I'm sure EA knows all about this but it seems to me that they don't care and people still tend to buy their games, especially football fans who buy FIFA. I must admit I will buy FIFA 2004 as well, and I wanna see how much effort did EA put on building this game. PES3 is great, WE7 is great, I wanna see where FIFA 2004 will stand. So at the end, what do you think which game is better PES3 or WE7 ?? both games are done by KONAMI, I know I asked this question before, so don't get pissed.
Eksol, I like both games, PES3 and WE7, maybe you know that I think WE7 is a little bit better, it´s hard to explain, if I would work in a gamesmag i would give WE7 95 % and PES3 92, that´s the difference for me. I think FIFA is somewhere around 80 %. The gameplay of the new FIFA is improved compared to 2003, but I already own PES3 and WE7 so I wouldn´t spend more money on footie-games this year Definately I´m going to play FIFA coz I have some friends that like FIFA more than PES, so I´ll play FIFA against them.
I don´t think EA can make a gameplay like Konami, by the way, the Konami company isn´t as little as the most people think, they have a higher budget like EA I think, at least EA have noticed that they need to improve the gameplay and are working on it, but it´s still a long way for them. The job for Konami is easier, they just need to spend some money on new licenses. Now it´s up to them to make a perfect, fully licensed PES4.
Definately I´m going to play FIFA coz I have some friends that like FIFA more than PES, so I´ll play FIFA against them. I don´t think EA can make a gameplay like Konami, by the way, the Konami company isn´t as little as the most people think, they have a higher budget like EA I think, at least EA have noticed that they need to improve the gameplay and are working on it, but it´s still a long way for them. The job for Konami is easier, they just need to spend some money on new licenses. Now it´s up to them to make a perfect, fully licensed PES4.